[fa.laser-lovers] Table formatters and sample tables

laser-lovers@uw-beaver (laser-lovers) (09/14/84)

From: Creon Levit <creon@AMES-NAS-GW.ARPA>
Pic, which runs under unix with ditroff, is used for typesetting
drawings.  It can be used with tbl (i.e. you can put little drawings
inside of table entries).  Also, equations can be put inside of tables
using eqn and tbl.  In fact, equations can be put inside of drawings
inside of tables.

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laser-lovers@uw-beaver (laser-lovers) (09/18/84)

From: Brian Reid <reid@Glacier>
The best I've ever seen was done by some guy named Victor at the Bureau
of Labor Statistics in Washington, DC. I'll try to hunt down the
reference. It's all written in Cobol, but wow, can it format tables!

laser-lovers@uw-beaver (laser-lovers) (09/20/84)

From: Beach.pa@XEROX.ARPA
My current research focus is on the problems with table formatting.  In
the hope of discovering some interesting tools I thought I should ask
this august group.  I know about tbl for troff and LaTeX for TEX.

What other table formatters exist?  Are there interactive front ends to
these packages?  Is there a table preprocessor for Scribe somewhere?  Do
the tools handle math or graphics or tables within tables?

I'd appreciate references to published papers, pointers to implementors
or user documentation, and SAMPLES!  Its always interesting to see how
tough table formatting problems are handled by various tools.

Cheers
Rick Beach
Xerox PARC

laser-lovers@uw-beaver (laser-lovers) (09/26/84)

From: Beach.pa@XEROX.ARPA
In my previous message, I requested information about table formatters,
interactive front ends for table formatters, a Scribe table
preprocessor, and tables with math or equations included.  Unfortunately
the answers were not encouraging.

Sonnenschein.es@Xerox.ARPA pointed out that the Xerox Star 8010
workstation has interactive table formatting. [Shame on me for not
mentioning it before! RJB]

Mark D Senn <senn@PURDUE.ARPA> pointed out that 'naked' TeX works fine
for tables using the templates designed by Donald Knuth in "The
TeXbook".

Creon Levit <creon@AMES-NAS-GW.ARPA> suggested pic, the picture language
preprocessor for  device independent troff under Unix.  eqn, pic, and
tbl can be used in succession to embed equations inside drawings inside
tables.  [Does anyone know the limitations workable orderings of the
preprocessors? RJB]

Paul Rubin <phr%ucbernie@UCB-VAX.ARPA> pointed me to the matrix
formatting macros in AmSTeX, described in "The Joy of TeX" by Mike
Spivak.

Brian Reid <reid@SU-GLACIER.ARPA> pointed me to a guy named Victor at
the Bureau of Labor Statistics in Washington, DC. Brian's comment: "It's
all written in Cobol, but wow, can it format tables!"

Richard Furuta <Furuta@Washington> provided me with a reference to
"TABLE: Object Oriented Editing of Complex Structures" by Ted
Biggerstaff et al., published in the IEEE Conference on Software
Productivity.  TABLE is an interactive front end to tbl they built to
demonstrate the view that "the software development is a process of
editing complex structures".


Thanks to all the respondents.  There surely must be other gems out
there.

Cheers
Rick Beach
Xerox PARC