laser-lovers@uw-beaver (01/29/85)
From: udenva!hao!pag@lbl-csam.arpa (Peter Gross)
Quite a while back I asked for cheap[er] sources for the drum/toner
cartridges for Canon LPB-CX laser printers (used by many OEMs).
Unfortunately it sounds like there just aren't any real discounters,
or if there are no one knows about them.
--peter gross
hao!pag@SEISMO.ARPA ARPA
hao!pag uucp
Here are the responses I received:
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HP LaserJet cartridges work just fine in Imagen 8/300's (we are using
some now). You might be able to get a discount from some source of
these. We can get them for $99 cash&carry at a local computer store.
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The best we have been able to come up with is HP Laser-jet cartridges @
$90 in quantities 6-24. I think there are mail-order discount HP
dealers, but I haven't really explored that. If you come up with
anything better, please let me know.
I was really disappointed when I found out the $65 copier cartridges
aren't the same.
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At 5000 pages per week you are gonna have bigger problems than
spending money on cartridges. My impression is that the CX is
designed for a duty cycle of about 3000 copies per MONTH with about
100,000 copies expected life. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but
in any case the CX is not a high throughput machine.
Rumors abound of Imagen and others introducing higher duty cycle machines
in the very near future. Meanwhile, the best that can be said for beating up
on a CX is that you will need to replace it about when new machines
become available....
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I'm not familiar with the Canon LBP-CX engine, but I can give you a {possible}
warning about it. We have three Symbolics lasers based on the LBP-10 engine
from Canon. For the same reason (high costs) as well as difficulty in
delivery (they're in Ca., we're in NC) we attempted to find another supplier
for the Canon LBP-10 toner and concentrate. Turns out stock Canon supplies
will NOT work. Symbolics deliberately changed the POLARITY on their toner
fluid such that you MUST buy your supplies from them. I doubt Imagen did
something similar, but you never know.
Personaly I'd never buy Symbolics again, but once we had two in house, we
had no choice but to get our third from them because of maintenance agreements.
Just thought I'd give you a small word of caution. Make sure Imagen hasn't
pulled some sort of similar trick to make you dependent upon them.
===========================================laser-lovers@uw-beaver (01/31/85)
From: Rich Cohen <udenva!lbl-csam!CMP.COHEN@utexas-20.arpa> Regarding the polarity of toner in the Symbolics LGP-1... Symbolics did not change the LBP-10 print engine manufactured by Canon in some non-standard way. (I do not believe that they changed it at all.) Witness that the supplies you buy from Symbolics are standard Canon supplies, labelled for use in the LBP-10. Imagen will sell you the same supplies (for approximately the same prices, and about the same delivery delays.) The Symbolics LGP is now 2 years old, and so might be described as "yesterday's technology", but it is unfair to ascribe malicious intent to Symbolics design of the printer. They worked with the most advanced print engine available at the time (as did Imagen). We bought a Symbolics LGP-1 and an Imagen Imprint-10 (both based on the Canon LBP-10 print engine), and have happily used both for more than 2 years now. -- Rich -------