[fa.laser-lovers] What else besides the LaserWriter.

laser-lovers@uw-beaver (09/04/85)

From: bierma@nprdc.arpa (Larry Bierma)

With all this touting of PostScript becoming the "new" standard
how come Apple is the only manufacturer of printers supporting
PostScript.  What about QMS you say?  They sent our purchase
order back saying sorry, we don't make these anymore, but if
you don't need PostScript we'll happy to sell you something.
That's the last time I ever put Group III on a bidders list.

Are there any laser printers out there that support PostScript?
Something a little faster than the Apple's 3.4 pages a minute.

--Larry

laser-lovers@uw-beaver (09/05/85)

From: SHULL@WHARTON-10.arpa   (Christopher Shull)

 
 >> With all this touting of PostScript becoming the "new" standard
 >> how come Apple is the only manufacturer of printers supporting
 >> PostScript.  What about QMS you say?  They sent our purchase
 >> order back saying sorry, we don make these anymore, but if
 >> you don need PostScript wel happy to sell you something.
 >> That the last time I ever put Group III on a bidders list.
 >> 
 >> Are there any laser printers out there that support PostScript?
 >> Something a little faster than the Apple 3.4 pages a minute.
 >> 
 >> --Larry
 
 A few weeks ago, Apollo Computer, Inc. announced DOMAIN/LASER-26,
 a laser printer with, as mentioned by Neal Holtz to Laser-Lovers
 (26 Jul 85 10:15:40 PDT):
 
         - "up to" 26 pages/minute
         - 300 dpi.
         - PostScript interpreter built-in to graphics processor on printer
         - up to 11x17 inch paper
     *   - straight-through paper path
     *   - 1500 sheet capacity paper cassettes
     *   - optional 10-bin sorter/collater
         - RS-232 or Centronics parallel interface
         - less then 55 db noise.
 
     *  These features are not mentioned in the information I
        have seen, but seem reasonable.
 
 The RS-232C version is available for about $31,900 (list), and the
 Centronics parallel interface with Multibus board is available for
 about $34,900.
 
 There is some evidence that this is the Dataproducts LZR-2660 that
 Brian Reid mentioned (27 Jun 1985 2205-PDT).  Richard Furuta suggested
 (Thu 25 Jul 85 23:21:19-PDT) that the print engine is made by Toshiba.
 
 It has 2.5 MB of RAM, a 68000 CPU, 13 resident fonts from the public
 domain are standard.  Merganthaller fonts can apparently be purchased
 from Apollo (from Adobe).  For more information, I recommend contacting
 your local sales representative or:
 
             Margret-Ann Maloney
             Product Manager for Output Devices
             Apollo Computer, Inc.
             330 Bellerica Drive
             Chelmsford, MA 01824
             phone: (617) 256-6600, ext. 4977
 
 Dataproducts Corporation is at:
 
             6200 Canoga Avenue
             P.O. Box 746
             Woodland Hills, CA  91365-0746
             phone: (213) 887-8000
 
 I don know anyone there so I don know whether they are selling them
 to normal folks or not.
 
 Chris Shull
 
         ARPA: Shull@Wharton-10.ARPA
         PSTN: 215/898-5930
         USPS: Decision Sciences Department
               The Wharton School
               University of Pennsylvania
               Philadelphia, PA 19104

laser-lovers@uw-beaver (09/05/85)

From: Neal Holtz <holtz%cascade.carleton.cdn%ubc.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa>

>  Something a little faster than the Apple's 3.4 pages a minute.

I hope this figure didn't come solely from some of the numbers bandied
around laser-lovers.  While that it is certainly close to what a lot of people 
(including myself) have quoted, almost all of those discussions were in the context
of a (rather crude) DVI-Postscript driver that rather stupidly downloads
all fonts.  Obviously rate depends on usage.  Multiple copies do indeed
come out at the rate of 8 pages/min. (after the first copy of every page).
A very simple lineprinter emulator (not the built-in one) that does nothing
intelligent but paginate and recognize form-feeds, prints program listings
at 5.5 pages/min (although a while back someone else was claiming only 3 ppm
for a lineprinter emulator).

Besides, there really is nothing wrong with 3.5 pages/minute on a relatively
inexpensive device like this.  At 50% duty cycle you can print 100,000 pages
in 40 days.  This is a low duty-cycle prin engine, remember.