[net.kids] On Natural Mothering

ekh@machaids.UUCP (Gene) (12/14/83)

I have been meaning to add to the recent discussion on  net.kids,
and figured I should let the real expert (my wife) contribute:

I'm writing because recent articles in net.kids have reminded  me
of  a  subject that's very dear to me--natural mothering.  What's
that?  Well in many ways it is a  lot  like  natural  childbirth.
Both  require  knowledge,  a  positive  attitude,  a  respect for
nature, effort, and support and help from the father.  Both offer
great  rewards,  although  those  who  haven't  experienced these
things may not understand.

Natural mothering involves frequent breastfeeding "on demand," to
feed  and  to  comfort the baby.  It involves meeting an infant's
needs day and night.  It involves nightime and daytime  closeness
with  the child.  It involves freely giving up some of your sleep
for the sake of your baby.  (I imagine some of you folks  out  in
"netland" give up some of your sleep occasionally for the sake of
your job, right?)

The rewards include: 1)  a  close,  loving  relationship  with  a
wonderful  little person who just happens to be your child!  2) a
child who knows what love is and feels deeply loved, 3)  a  sense
of  satisfaction  that  you  gave  of  yourself to do your job of
parenting as well as you could.

It still amazes me that our culture advises parents to  get  away
with   doing   as  little  as  possible  to  nurture  an  infant;
bottlefeed, overuse pacifiers, prop the  bottle,  get  away  from
your  baby, don't spoil your baby, let your baby cry it out, make
your baby sleep through the night!  When this advice is taken  to
extremes,  the job of parenting becomes the menial, boring job of
custodial infant care.  No wonder our culture goes  on  to  label
mothering as "unfulfilling!"

Here are some books that I recommend:
"Breastfeeding and Natural Child Spacing, The Ecology of  Natural
Mothering," by Sheila Kipley, 1974, Harper & Row.
"The Family Bed, An Age  Old  Concept  in  Child  Rearing,"  Tine
Thevinin, 1976, published by the author.
"Motherlove, Natural Mothering,  Birth  to  Three  Years,"  Alice
Bricklin, 1975, Running Press.
"The   Womanly   Art   of   Breastfeeding,"   La   Leche   League
International, 1981.
"To love a Baby," Sandy Jones, (probably Houghton Mifflin).

These books include references  to  scientific  studies.   Jone's
bibliography is particularly fascinating.

From Joann Harvey, mother of Robin (4 1/2) and  Eugene  (2),  two
very natural kids.

benw@pyuxn.UUCP (B Weber) (12/20/83)

What an amazing article!  Sounds like you're really in tune the
the cosmic ecological vibes, 'cause, like, babies need their space
to relate to.

What a crock!!

We have twin girls, 7 months old (Allison and Shannon).  They are
bottle fed, with a flexible schedule.  The last bottle of the night
is just that.  They sleep in their own room, in their own cribs.  They
use pacifiers (they often put them in themselves).  The results are:
1)  a  close,  loving  relationship  with 
wonderful  little persons who just happens to be your child!
2) children who knows what love is and feels deeply loved, 3)  a  sense
of  satisfaction  that  you  gave  of  yourself to do your job of
parenting as well as you could.

Other results are:
4) A close loving relationship with a person who just happens to be
my wife.  5) Children who are self reliant, confident,  can learn
on their own and occupy themselves. 6) Parents who can perform other
functions besides parenting.

We don't neglect our kids.  I won't go into the details of
how we are raising them, but we give them all the attention they need;
they are happy and alert and have wonderful dispositions (sorry, but
they've always slept through the night...maybe I should wake them
up for a feeding). The main "method" is to use our common sense, and
that means, to us, a time for them, a time for us, and a time for
all of us together.

Natural parenting? What is that, exactly?  Organic parents? EST for
tots?  I am very tired of hearing and reading what I MUST do to be
a good parent, lest I scar my children for life.  We do what our common
sense dictates.  That does not include spending ALL of our time with our
kids, dedicating EVERY MOMENT of our attention to them, or letting them
alone dictate our lives.  I mean, housework has to get done too, y'know.

Every author in the world is an expert, and there are a lot of child
raising books that set me on the floor laughing.  For instance, one
book (whose name, gratefully, escapes me), stated that you should
NEVER, EVER, EVER ignore a child's cry. (a view with which you agree,
no doubt).  Does the author have kids? We can tell when our kids
are uncomfortable, in pain, hungry, etc, but sometimes they cry
because they are overtired, just in a cranky mood, and even (shocks
of shocks) because they don't want to be held anymore.  I do believe
that you can be overattentive; I feel it is as bad as neglect, but
that is beside the point.  If you feel that "natural" parenting is
the way to go, fine...we all take our consequences.  But don't label
parents who raise children in the accepted way of our culture as
"unfulfilled"; don't look down on the rest of society.  Our kids
are NOT unnatural, NOT inferior,
and will no doubt grow up to lead good, productive lives.

						Ben Weber
						AT&T T (WECO) PY
						pyuxn!benw

burton@fortune.UUCP (Philip Burton) (01/06/84)

Thanks, my thoughts exactly.  Now that it's Ok, even required, that
fathers be in the delivery room, participate in their children's upbringing,
(which brings me much joy), I find that the new regime is every bit as
oppresive as the ancien regime, except that I happen to agree more with
the new one.

But, may the heavens protect me, should I/we revert to the old role models,
such as my wife getting drugs during delivery, or doing chores around the
house that are sex-role defined.  e.g. I do the work on the cars and the
plumbing, and she does the shopping.

Oh well, we can't all make it to heaven, the kind that the Movement kids
grown up have designed for the rest of us.
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  Philip Burton,  Fortune Systems,  101 Twin Dolphin Drive,
  Redwood City, CA  94065	   (415) 595-8444 x 526

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berry@zehntel.UUCP (01/10/84)

#R:pyuxn:-38700:zinfandel:22500003:000:436
zinfandel!berry    Jan  9 13:34:00 1984

I don't care what you think, but I agree with the
author you forgot (Dr. Fitzhugh Dodson, I believe) that
you should NEVER EVER EVER ignore a child's cry.  You
may listen and evaluate it, and CHOOSE to do nothing if
in your experienced judgement no action is necessary,
but PLEASE don't IGNORE it!!!

Sheesh.  I hope you didn't mean what I thought you
meant.

Berry Kercheval		Zehntel Inc.
(ihnp4!zehntel!zinfandel!berry)
(415)932-6900