[net.kids] From crib to bed

nd2k@homxa.UUCP (A.SCHWARZ) (07/20/84)

                    I would appreciate any information, advice and
     the trials and tribulations of transferring a child from a crib
     to a regular bed. We have a daughter about to turn three; is
     this about the right age?

burton@inuxd.UUCP (Thomas Burton) (07/20/84)

<one small bug for netnews, one giant bug for netland!>
We moved our older child to a bed just prior to his second birthday.
The reason was because the younger child was rapidly outgrowing
the basinette he was sleeping in, and we didn't want to buy
another crib.
The main problem we had with Timothy was he had a little trouble
adjusting to his new "freedom"; he wanted to get up a lot
and walk around after we put him to bed.  We only had one case
where he actually fell out of bed (we don't have any railings for
the bed), and we remedied that with some big pillows placed along
the edge (so that when he rolls around at night, his subconscious
stops him when it encounters an obstacle -- the pillow -- and
keeps him from rolling off).  The solution we used to limit his
wandering was to put up a gate in his door, so that we wouldn't
have to keep the door closed. He hasn't figured out how to open the
gate yet (it's a pressure type), so he's stuck in his room, and
eventually he settles down and goes to sleep. We also had to limit
the number of toys in his room at night (especially loud ones).
He's adjusted quite well now to his bed; he even insists on having
the gate up at night (I guess kids insist on a regular pattern to
things).
One problem we've encountered with the gate: we've just started to
potty train Timothy, and even though he still sleeps in his
diaper, sometimes he wants to go potty after we've put the gate
up. Last night I found him standing at his gate, with his diaper
and all his clothes on the other side of the gate, waiting for
me to let him go potty! (It was mildly amusing).


			Doug Burton
			ATT-CP Indianapolis
			inuxd!burton

P.S. About potty training: has anyone noticed what a wonderful aid
to potty training these new refastenable tabs on Pampers and Huggies
are? Now instead of having to wash training pants when Timothy goofs,
we just throw out the diaper. And Timothy really has the hang of taking
off his diaper; those refastenable tabs make it really easy, plus
you don't waste a diaper every time he wants to go potty.

elt@astrovax.UUCP (Ed Turner) (07/23/84)

If you have enough room to set up the child's bed-to-be without taking the
crib down first, you can make the transition slowly and without undue stress.

We did this with our son and it worked very well.  He started out taking his
naps in the bed occasionally and progressed to preferring it to the crib
in a few weeks time.  The advantages of being able to easily get in and out
of bed by oneself become apparent to the child pretty rapidly, so the crib
soon loses its appeal.  Of course every kid is different and this might not
work well for you.

Ed Turner
astrovax!elt

pking@uiucuxc.UUCP (07/23/84)

We moved our first two childern from cribs to bed about the
time they were two--

With the first child we moved him from his crib shortly
after becoming pregnant with the second child-- 
We made a big production of it with the first child,
and told him what a "big boy" he was, etc.  He loved
it, and we had only a few problems with him getting out
of bed, roaming around, after being put to bed for the
night--

The second child, asked to be moved to a "big bed" 
about the time she was two, because her brother had one--
again we had no problems 

When child number three came along, (four years between number 2
and number 3) she stayed in a crib longer, first because she
was more of a roamer, second because just before she was two
we moved from a ranch style house to a bi-level and we were more
afraid of her falling down the stairs (before she learned how)
(her bedroom is on the second floor and there are two flights
between her and the kitchen downstairs) -- she was approaching
moving this summer, we were holding off for her third birthday,
but she decided for us by learning to climb out of her crib,
and the danger of falling out of a crib far out weighed the 
other considerations, so we moved her into a bed--her bed sits
fairly close to the ground (a firm mattress without a box spring,
helps this problem) and she is just fine--she does not get out of
bed without coming into our room first, before she goes anyplace
else---

I have always felt, even before my kids were older that the child
should in some way let you know he/she needs out of a crib,
either by asking or by climbing out of the crib--

I have also found that if you're afraid of the child falling out of 
the bed during the night, for less than $10 or so, you can
buy railings (portable) that slip underneath the mattress--
usually they only go part way down the side, but for a small
child this is fine--I also recommend these for small kids,
because they work great on couches, if you go visting etc.
Years ago, you could order these side rails from Penney's and
Sears catalogs, and they were great devices to have--

pat king
uiucdcs!uiucuxc!pking

sml@wdl1.UUCP (sml ) (07/23/84)

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wdl1!sml    Jul 23 09:22:00 1984

We got my daughter a "big bed" at age 2 1/2.  Of course, kids vary.
Problems were few.  We made a big deal of the fact that she was getting
a big bed.  At the beginning we placed pillows and such to assure
a soft landing when she fell out.  This happened only a couple of times.

Good luck.

Steve Lazarus
Ford Aerospace
MS X-20
3939 Fabian Way
Palo Alto, CA  94303

(415) 852-4203

sml@ford-wdl1 (ARPA)
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essachs@ihuxl.UUCP (Ed Sachs) (07/24/84)

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The "freedom" of being able to get out of a bed may be nothing
new to an active child.  We decided to move our youngest from
a crib to a bed at 22 months when she started climbing out of
the crib.  We felt she was safer in a bed (shorter distance to
fall if she slipped while climbing out).
-- 
				Ed Sachs
				AT&T Bell Laboratories
				Naperville, IL
				ihnp4!ihuxl!essachs

johnhi@tekig.UUCP (John Higley) (07/25/84)

We moved our boy to a bed when he started to climb out of the crib (as did
most of you).  He was less than 2 years old (My wife remembers dates, I
don't).  We did not worry about him rolling out of the bed because he went
straight from crib to waterbed.  The water bag combined with padded rails
prevents him from falling out.  Our second child (now 3 months) will move to
her waterbed as soon as she wants to (climbs out of the crib).

As an aside, our son recently fell out of the bed for the first time.  It
seems that I was a little to quick to get onto his bed and the wave that I
created tossed him over the edge.

John Higley
...tektronix!tekig!johnhi

wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler) (07/27/84)

It's a funny thing about kids and beds.  Whenever one of our
three graduated to a bed, rolled over in the night and fell out,
my wife and I both would sit bolt upright and dash to their
room the second we heard the thump.  It didn't seem to matter
haow tired or fast asleep we were, we would both hear the thump.
Often as not, the child would still be sound asleep, curled up on
the floor.  There must be something in the human makeup that
triggers a 'kid fell out of bed' alarm to wake us up.  Anyone
else had the same experience?
T. C. Wheeler

adm@cbneb.UUCP (08/01/84)

We moved our 18 month old daughter from a crib to the bed much too
early.  She had returned from a stay at Grandma's and seemed to
suddenly hate the crib (of course, love-hate relationships at
this age are not unusual).  Since we were expecting a new 
baby in three months times (and we were terribly naive),
it seemed like a reasonable time to make the switch since then 
then wouldn't feel like the new baby took away her crib.

Well, it was OK for awhile.  We simply placed a mattress on the floor
so we didn't have to worry about her falling out of bed. She was
getting up in the middle of the night alot more than she did in
the crib, but I wasn't sleeping well anyway so it was tolerable.
Her getting up seemed to occur in spurts.

Anyway, after her brother was born - it took a turn for the worse.
Both kids were getting up twice each night (of course, they never
got up simultaneously).  We were exhausted, and didn't quite know
what to do.

In a moment of desperation, the solution occurred to me.  We removed
the mattress from her room and replaced it with a small tent (we
are tent-campers and used this tent in our pre-children days).
We decorated the tent by lining up on both its sides and back all of
her favorite stuffed animals and dolls.  Foam pads made it quite
comfortable for sleeping.  Then, we took her shopping to select her own
sheets (cabbage patch dolls, wouldn't you know).  She thought
her 'new' room was really great!!  All of her friends loved it
too; they always wanted to play in her tent.

There is a happy ending here.  With the tent, she 
stopped waking up on a regular basis!!
I guess this arrangement was alot more secure for her.
About a month ago (she is now 2 years and 8 months old), we
took down the tent and brought back the mattress.  Haven't had
any problems at all.  Her brother will be one year old next
month and we are really enjoying sleeping through the night.
Needless to say, he will stay in his crib well past 18 months old.

We pitched the tent outside for playing purposes, and brought back
her bedroom furniture.  A two-person pup tent looks small and obscure
in a large campground but it sure fills up an average size
bedroom.

Oh well, that's the end of my story.  Good luck in making your
crib-to-bed transition.

			     Audree Thurman
			     AT&T Bell Labs
			     Columbus, OH  

P.S.  Just an addendum on potty training.  Once we removed the
night-time diaper, it was amazing how dry her nights became.