slb@drutx.UUCP (Sue Brezden) (10/08/85)
>I bit her back - not hard to hurt but >it left a slight impression. I hate to say this, but I was cured of biting. My mother bit me back "hard to hurt". It was a great object lesson in how it feels to be on the other end. And it has a great logical justice about it. I still remember it. There was this sudden flash that other people had feelings just like me... I think I came out of this with no psychological scars. (My mother might disagree--she thinks I am weird because I am against war, and I believe in love and equality and all that liberal stuff...) But it's not the sort of thing I like to recommend, because someone is bound to scream "child abuse." Luckily, the issue never came up with mine, or at least went away without my resorting to violence. It's possible that any of the methods you mention may work, but it will just take longer. Keep at it by whatever of those ways seems most comfortable--don't give up, and don't change methods. -- Sue Brezden Real World: Room 1B17 Net World: ihnp4!drutx!slb AT&T Information Systems 11900 North Pecos Westminster, Co. 80234 (303)538-3829 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I march to the beat of a different drummer, whose identity, location, and musical ability are as yet unknown. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
sewilco@mecc.UUCP (Scot E. Wilcoxon) (10/11/85)
In article <183@drutx.UUCP> slb@drutx.UUCP (Sue Brezden) writes: >>I bit her back - not hard to hurt but >>it left a slight impression. > >I hate to say this, but I was cured of biting. My mother bit >me back "hard to hurt". It was a great object lesson in how >... >I still remember it. There was this sudden flash that other >people had feelings just like me... I used a similar method after our boy started to walk and understand us. He needed to learn to stay away from the hot stove, but it seemed unlikely he'd remember why. Fortunately, this coincided with one of his stages where he connects words immediately with concepts. So I filled a cup with hot water. Not hot enough to scald, but hot enough to be uncomfortable. I asked him to touch it gently (he understood "gently") and then was able to explain what "hot" meant, why he should stay away from stove, and as a bonus, what "hurt" means. (No, I'm not cruel. Reread what I just said.) You parents and linguists know why I left for later the precision of warm/hot and uncomfortable/hurt...All he needed were the concepts. I had not expected that he'd immediately start identifying food as being "hot" or "not hot". He was able to quickly learn to cool his food down on his own. Aren't kids smart? -- Scot E. Wilcoxon Minn. Ed. Comp. Corp. circadia!mecc!sewilco 45 03 N / 93 15 W (612)481-3507 {ihnp4,uwvax}!dicomed!mecc!sewilco
jmc@riccb.UUCP (Jeff McQuinn ) (10/15/85)
> > I hate to say this, but I was cured of biting. My mother bit > me back "hard to hurt". It was a great object lesson in how > it feels to be on the other end. And it has a great logical > justice about it. > > I still remember it. There was this sudden flash that other > people had feelings just like me... > My mother cured me of using nasty words by threatening to cut my tongue out. (She was holding a butcher knife and told me to stick it out where she could get it.) I still have a hard time using naughty words! But hey, you've got to tame those little critters some how. Every kid I've seen who's been brought up without a spanking has also been brought up without a concept of disipline (sp), at least into kindergarden (God knows how those kindergarden teachers straighten them out). Jeff McQuinn just VAXing around
allen@bunker.UUCP (C. Allen Grabert) (10/18/85)
> My mother cured me of using nasty words by threatening to cut my tongue > out. (She was holding a butcher knife and told me to stick it out where > she could get it.)... Not to be rude or anything, but a parent should never make a threat that they do not intend to follow through with. If a child calls your bluff once, your job can only get more difficult. Of course, there are plenty of other things that your mother could have threatened you with. I believe my wife got hot sauce in the mouth once. -- Back on the freeway, which is already in progress, Allen Grabert (...ittatc!bunker!allen)