[net.kids] pertussis

abulloch@violet.berkeley.edu (02/09/86)

Our nine-week old daughter is coming up for her first innoculations 
(pertussis, tetanus, diphtheria: DTP). In the last few years there has been
a lot of controversy over the possible side-effects of the pertussis part
of these innoculations, with some arguing (especially in England) that the
dangers of the side-effects from the innoculation are larger than
those arising from the disease itself.  We are doing some research into
the latest literature of this, but would be very interested to have any
info. that anyone has about the current state of research and opinion,
and to hear the experience and opinions of others. It can be difficult
sorting out medical orthodoxy and/or vested interest from the actual
state of research on something like this, it seems.

Anthony Bulloch
Classics Dept.
UCBerkeley
Ca. 94720

martha@geowhiz.UUCP (Martha Savage) (02/10/86)

> 
> Our nine-week old daughter is coming up for her first innoculations 
> (pertussis, tetanus, diphtheria: DTP). In the last few years there has been
> a lot of controversy over the possible side-effects of the pertussis part
> of these innoculations, with some arguing (especially in England) that the
> dangers of the side-effects from the innoculation are larger than
> those arising from the disease itself.  We are doing some research into
> the latest literature of this, but would be very interested to have any
> info. that anyone has about the current state of research and opinion,
> and to hear the experience and opinions of others. It can be difficult
> sorting out medical orthodoxy and/or vested interest from the actual
> state of research on something like this, it seems.
> 
> Anthony Bulloch
> Classics Dept.
> UCBerkeley
> Ca. 94720

I worried about this a while ago, reading various literature although
not recent research articles.  I read somewhere that in England whooping
cough has become a problem again because of the lack of innoculations--
several children have died from it.

I finally decided to go ahead with the full DPT, because I really trust my
doctor.  I'm in a type of HMO, so that the pressure is to
not do unnecessary procedures, so that "vested interest" would
point the other way if it wasn't necessary.  More important,
my doctor and her nurse both had their children innoculated
(They were both born within a few months of mine, but that's
another story).  

My son had just a slight fever and crankiness and slept more as
a reaction.  But different kids react differently, and make sure
you ask for and understand any warning signs when it's done.
-- 
         Martha Kane Savage
U. Wisc. Dept. Geology and Geophysics
{ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!geowhiz!martha

avinash@ubvax.UUCP (Avinash Marathe) (02/11/86)

In article <300@ucbjade.BERKELEY.EDU> abulloch@violet.berkeley.edu.UUCP () writes:
>Our nine-week old daughter is coming up for her first innoculations 
>(pertussis, tetanus, diphtheria: DTP). In the last few years there has been
>a lot of controversy over the possible side-effects of the pertussis part
>of these innoculations, with some arguing (especially in England) that the
>dangers of the side-effects from the innoculation are larger than
>those arising from the disease itself.  We are doing some research into
>
>Anthony Bulloch


According to Dr. Dean Edell of KGO radio, exactly the opposite is true i.e.
the danger of getting whooping cough is greater than the danger of getting
side-effects from the innoculation.  So he strongly recommends getting your
children innoculated.  I know he means what he says because he has given
the shots to his own children.  He admits that the vaccine is not perfect
but feels that it's safer to get vaccinated than not.  

Because more people are not vaccinating their kids whooping cough is on the 
rise in many states.

Avinash Marathe
{ihnp4,allegra,decwrl}!amd!ubvax!avinash

flowers@ucla-cs.UUCP (02/14/86)

In article <300@ucbjade.BERKELEY.EDU> abulloch@violet.berkeley.edu.UUCP () writes:
>DTP: In the last few years there has been
>a lot of controversy over the possible side-effects of the pertussis part
>of these innoculations, with some arguing (especially in England) that the
>dangers of the side-effects from the innoculation are larger than
>those arising from the disease itself.  We are doing some research into
>the latest literature of this, but would be very interested to have any
>info. that anyone has about the current state of research and opinion,
>and to hear the experience and opinions of others.

Our pediatrician told us that there was a big study recently completed
at USC which recommends against the 6 month pertussis innoculation
(i.e. give only the 2 and 4 month pertussis innoculation) because
antibody titres don't increase that much more with the 6 month innoculation
but there is a much greater risk of dangerous allergic reaction.  It is as
yet unpublished but he expects it to be the basis of many malpractice suits
when it finally is published. I don't have any references, sorry.

Baby tylenol (or Tempra) seemed to help much with the pain, so that
she quit moaning and just ended up sleeping a lot until the next day.
So the next time they gave her some with the shot and it went much
better.  There was no problem with the third shot which was only a DT.
(Even the DT's hurt a lot, I got one at the same time and was astonished
how sharp the pain was).

The show 20/20 a year or so ago claimed that the cited
rates of dangerous reaction to the pertussis innoculation are the British
rates, and that our rates in the US, where a different formulation
is used, are significantly higher, high enough to advise against the
vaccine.  I don't know if this charge is true or not.