kp@hlwpc.UUCP (K Pearson) (01/17/86)
(You can send mail to me, but keep in mind that I am posting this for a friend) In response to the question, how do I get my child off the bottle, I say leave him or her alone and the child will eventually give it up with some gentle encouragement. I have a two-and-a-half year old boy who I tried to force off his bottle when he was 18 months old. My husband and I were very firm about his not having it anymore. He had no problem drinking from a cup or a straw, bebut he just wanted the comfort of his bottle. He would request it over and over again, andwe would tell him that he was too big, or that he did not need one. We tried giving him a bottle (sans nipple) with a straw in it. Finally, last month, we let him have it back. What we discovered was, that for him, the bottle was a comfort object. He does not have a "cuddly" like most children--a blanket or a stuffed animal--his bottle is his cuddly. In the last month since he has had his bottle back, he has become less obsessive about it, and I believe he will give it up voluntarily before too long. He only takes it to bed with him and is not interested in it during the day. I know all the arguments against giving a child a bottle in bed, but I think I would rather have a well-adjusted boy with a few cavities than a whining, insecure pre-schooler. Marianne Carlton AT&T-BL
avolio@decuac.UUCP (Frederick M. Avolio) (01/20/86)
We didn;t have the problem as both of our kids nursed and rearely used
a bottle. (Our first wouldn't even take one! Talk about your lousy
nights for me when my wife went out...)
A friend made a big deal over his daughter's 2nd birthday and explained to
her -- days before -- that when she turned 2, all the bottles had to go in
a bag and sent back to grandma's. (Well, whatever works.) They acted like
it was a fact of life and she bought it.
--
Fred @ DEC Ultrix Applications Center {decvax,seismo,cbosgd}!decuac!avoliogottlieb@cmcl2.UUCP (Allan Gottlieb) (01/20/86)
I agree that drinking milk or juice from a bottle is bad for a child's
teeth, especially the important bottle just before going to bed. What
was successful for us was to have David only drink (plain) water from
the bottle. Soon this was reduced to 1-2 oz at bed, 2-4 oz. during
long car trips, and occasionally when specially requested (usually
when frustrated). It worked for us.
--
Allan Gottlieb
GOTTLIEB@NYU
{floyd,ihnp4}!cmcl2!gottlieb <---the character before the 2 is an elcushner@ttidcb.UUCP (Jeffrey Cushner) (01/20/86)
In article <654@hlwpc.UUCP> kp@hlwpc.UUCP (K Pearson) writes: >In response to the question, how do I get my >child off the bottle, I say leave him or her alone >and the child will eventually give it up with some gentle >encouragement. I have a two-and-a-half year old boy >who I tried to force off his bottle when he was 18 months old. > >In the last month since he has had his bottle back, he has >become less obsessive about it, and I believe he will give >it up voluntarily before too long. He only takes it to bed >with him and is not interested in it during the day. > > I know all the arguments against giving a child a bottle >in bed, but I think I would rather have a well-adjusted >boy with a few cavities than a whining, insecure pre-schooler. > > Marianne Carlton > AT&T-BL If all you should be worried about are a few cavities, then I'd say fine, do it; I mean what are a few cavities? BUT, that is not the case! What happens when all your son's baby teeth turn BLACK and are then all pulled and replaced by silver temporary teeth and your son is called JAWS in school. This happened to both my neice and nephew, since my Sister-in-law gave them their bottle at night filled with milk or fruit juice. This was infant nursing syndrome at its worst and you are just asking for it with your son. If you MUST give him a bottle at night, make sure it is filled with WATER only! BTW, having seen was INS will do, we never gave our son a bottle in bed, therefore he never had any problem with it. At sixteen months old now, he has his bottle during the day, but also drinks from a cup (no lid) and straws. -- ============================================================================== Jeff Cushner @ Citicorp-TTI Santa Monica CA 90405 (213) 450-9111 x2273 {randvax,trwrb,vortex,philabs}!ttidca!ttidcb!cushner ********************************************************************* ** The above comments do not necessarily reflect the opinions of ** ** Citicorp-TTI and if the corporation wants them to, they'll have ** ** to pay through the nose for the rights! ** *********************************************************************
charliem@athena.UUCP (Charlie Mills) (01/22/86)
In article <629@ttidcb.UUCP> cushner@ttidcb.UUCP (Jeffrey Cushner) writes: >What happens when all your son's baby teeth turn BLACK and are then all >pulled and replaced by silver temporary teeth and your son is called >JAWS in school. This happened to both my neice and nephew, since my >Sister-in-law gave them their bottle at night filled with milk or fruit >juice. This was infant nursing syndrome at its worst and you are just >asking for it with your son. If you MUST give him a bottle at night, >make sure it is filled with WATER only! Oh, come on!! There must have been other contributing factors. My older daughter had a bottle of milk every time she went to bed at night or for a nap until she was four and half. She had and still has no problems with her teeth. I know plenty of children who nursed themselves to sleep every night until age four or so with no tooth problems. "Infant nursing syndrome"? Is that as bad as adult eating syndrome? :-) Care for your children in a way that feels right and natural to you and don't listen very hard to all the fantastic theories. -- Charlie Mills ..{ucbvax,decvax,uw-beaver,hplabs,ihnp4,allegra}!tektronix!athena!charliem
jcp@osiris.UUCP (Jody Patilla) (01/26/86)
> In article <629@ttidcb.UUCP> cushner@ttidcb.UUCP (Jeffrey Cushner) writes: > >. This was infant nursing syndrome at its worst and you are just > >asking for it with your son. If you MUST give him a bottle at night, > >make sure it is filled with WATER only! > > Oh, come on!! There must have been other contributing factors. My > older daughter had a bottle of milk every time she went to bed at night > or for a nap until she was four and half. She had and still has no > problems with her teeth. I know plenty of children who nursed > themselves to sleep every night until age four or so with no tooth > problems. > > Care for your children in a way that feels right and natural to you and > don't listen very hard to all the fantastic theories. Just this week, the Washington Post, in an article on dental care for children, warned parents expressly about the dangers of sleeping with a bottle (of milk or juice) and even showed pictures of small children with apallingly rotted teeth. The problem is quite real, not a fantastic theory at all. Apparently you and your daughter were just lucky. -- jcpatilla California is paid a diplomatic visit by giant Betelgeusian reptiles that want our women but can't find any so scientists invent a weapon that fails so they kill us.
bobn@bmcg.UUCP (Bob Nebert) (01/30/86)
> > In article <629@ttidcb.UUCP> cushner@ttidcb.UUCP (Jeffrey Cushner) writes: > > >. This was infant nursing syndrome at its worst and you are just > > >asking for it with your son. If you MUST give him a bottle at night, > > >make sure it is filled with WATER only! > > > > Oh, come on!! There must have been other contributing factors. My > > older daughter had a bottle of milk every time she went to bed at night > > or for a nap until she was four and half. She had and still has no > > > > Care for your children in a way that feels right and natural to you and > > don't listen very hard to all the fantastic theories. > > Just this week, the Washington Post, in an article on dental care > for children, warned parents expressly about the dangers of sleeping with > a bottle (of milk or juice) and even showed pictures of small children with > apallingly rotted teeth. My 3 year old son just got back from a trip to the dentist. His two front teeth have decay spots where the teeth meet. It has gone past the enamil(sp) and almost into the roots where it can travel up and effect the permanent teeth. The dentist (who I trust, and why not?) said it was directly related to a bottle. My 5 year old daughter had a spot on one of her front teeth but thank God it never grew and in fact is getting palier. The baby, 11 months, goes off the bottle and onto sipper cups NOW. You people can say or debate this issue all you want but I would rather be safe than sorry. sdcsvax!bmcg!bobn......................................Bob Nebert
stu16@whuxl.UUCP (SMITH) (02/05/86)
> > My 3 year old son just got back from a trip to the dentist. His two front > teeth have decay spots where the teeth meet. It has gone past the enamil(sp) > and almost into the roots where it can travel up and effect the permanent ^^^^^ > teeth. The dentist (who I trust, and why not?) said it was directly related > to a bottle. Baby teeth DO NOT have roots. Check it out with a pediodontist. Did you ever REALLY look at a baby tooth that has fallen out? -- whuxl!stu16
essachs@ihuxl.UUCP (Ed Sachs) (02/06/86)
> Baby teeth DO NOT have roots. Check it out with a > pediodontist. Did you ever REALLY look at a baby tooth that > has fallen out? Baby teeth DO indeed have roots. The roots disappear (are absorbed somehow by the body) in order to loosen them when they are ready to fall out. When I was about 10, I had to have a baby tooth extracted as it was badly decayed and not worth doing a root canal (it would have come out by itself in a year or so). The tooth did have roots, but they were already beginning to erode in preparation for its loosening. -- Ed Sachs AT&T Bell Laboratories Naperville, IL ihnp4!ihuxl!essachs
bobn@bmcg.UUCP (Bob Nebert) (02/08/86)
> > > > My 3 year old son just got back from a trip to the dentist. His two front > > teeth have decay spots where the teeth meet. It has gone past the enamil(sp) > > and almost into the roots where it can travel up and effect the permanent > ^^^^^ > > teeth. The dentist (who I trust, and why not?) said it was directly related > > to a bottle. > > > Baby teeth DO NOT have roots. Check it out with a > pediodontist. Did you ever REALLY look at a baby tooth that > has fallen out? > -- > whuxl!stu16 Sorry. I have never studied a baby's tooth and didn't know if they had roots or not. I was using the term "roots" as a directive (direction upward through the items that keep the tooth in place and not let them roam in the mouth), and not a biological term. Of course they can't have roots or how else can the secondary teeth attach to the jaw bone ( assuming kids have jawbones |->). But the important part is the decay anyway. sdcsvax!bmcg!bobn
stu16@whuxl.UUCP (SMITH) (02/10/86)
> > Baby teeth DO NOT have roots. Check it out with a > > pediodontist. Did you ever REALLY look at a baby tooth that > > has fallen out? > > Baby teeth DO indeed have roots. The roots disappear (are absorbed > somehow by the body) in order to loosen them when they are ready to > fall out. When I was about 10, I had to have a baby tooth extracted > as it was badly decayed and not worth doing a root canal (it would > have come out by itself in a year or so). The tooth did have roots, > but they were already beginning to erode in preparation for its > loosening. > -- > Ed Sachs > AT&T Bell Laboratories > Naperville, IL > ihnp4!ihuxl!essachs Baby teeth at the age of ten? Hard to believe. Most baby teeth fall out by the age of six, when "six-year molars" come in. By age twelve, wisdom teeth start erupting. (Although some people never get permenent teeth, and others get a third set. Genetics, I guess). kam -- whuxl!stu16
flowers@ucla-cs.UUCP (02/11/86)
> Baby teeth DO NOT have roots. Check it out with a > pediodontist. Did you ever REALLY look at a baby tooth that > has fallen out? I always thought that the roots were dissolved so that they would fall out. The ones I "helped" come out always had more at the base than the ones I left alone. I had to have a "baby" tooth removed before it was ready, for orthodontic reasons. It was a molar (two teeth behind the eye tooth on the bottom), whose bottom forked into two halves. The tooth was in there so strongly that the dentist could not pull it out. So with a drill he divided it in two halves (as though it was two teeth), to pull out each half separately. When pulling out one of the halves, it was embedded so strongly that the bottom broke off. After pulling out the other half they they returned to the first half and picked out the bottom piece by piece. What should have been a simple pull extraction ended up taking an hour of hard work (no fun on my end of things). Whatever that stuff at the bottom of the tooth was that kept it in my jaw, it was darned effective. I always thought it was a root.
barbara@hoqax.UUCP (GAECHTER) (02/11/86)
> > Baby teeth at the age of ten? Hard to believe. Most > baby teeth fall out by the age of six, when "six-year > molars" come in. By age twelve, wisdom teeth start erupting. > (Although some people never get permenent teeth, and others > get a third set. Genetics, I guess). > kam > -- > whuxl!stu16 From experience, baby teeth do not necessarily all fall out at the age of six!!! (My FIRST tooth was lost at age six, I had to have the last FOUR pulled at age twelve, before getting braces. Wisdom teeth only started erupting around age 22). I agree that it probably has alot to do with genetics. My entire family (M&D and four children) had "late" teeth. -- Barbara Gaechter HO 2K-531 (201) 949-0746 AT&T Bell Laboratories Crawfords Corner Road ...!{ihnp4|hou2g|allegra|mhuxh}!hoqax!barbara Holmdel, NJ 07733
stu16@whuxl.UUCP (Pippin) (02/12/86)
> > Baby teeth DO NOT have roots. Check it out with a > > pediodontist. Did you ever REALLY look at a baby tooth that > > has fallen out? > > I always thought that the roots were dissolved so that they would fall out. > The ones I "helped" come out always had more at the base than the ones > I left alone. > > I had to have a "baby" tooth removed before it was ready, for orthodontic > reasons. It was a molar (two teeth behind the eye tooth on the bottom), > whose bottom forked into two halves. The tooth was in there so strongly > that the dentist could not pull it out. So with a drill he divided it in > two halves (as though it was two teeth), > to pull out each half separately. When pulling out one of the halves, > it was embedded so strongly that the bottom broke off. After pulling > out the other half they they returned to the first half and picked out > the bottom piece by piece. What should have been a simple pull extraction > ended up taking an hour of hard work (no fun on my end of things). > > Whatever that stuff at the bottom of the tooth was that kept it in my > jaw, it was darned effective. I always thought it was a root. Those "claws" holding the tooth to the jaw are NOT roots. Roots are the pulpy things coming out from the center of the tooth. Ever hear of root canal? Where do you think the root canal is located? -- Pippin Stuart whuxl!stu16
essachs@ihuxl.UUCP (Ed Sachs) (02/12/86)
> > Baby teeth at the age of ten? Hard to believe. Most > baby teeth fall out by the age of six, when "six-year > molars" come in. By age twelve, wisdom teeth start erupting. > (Although some people never get permenent teeth, and others > get a third set. Genetics, I guess). > kam > -- > whuxl!stu16 Baby teeth START to be shed around age six. The last ones often don't get replaced until age 12 or so. (The Tooth Fairy is still paying off my 10 year old.) -- Ed Sachs AT&T Bell Laboratories Naperville, IL ihnp4!ihuxl!essachs
suze@terak.UUCP (Suzanne Barnett) (02/21/86)
> Baby teeth at the age of ten? Hard to believe. Most > baby teeth fall out by the age of six, when "six-year > molars" come in. By age twelve, wisdom teeth start erupting. > (Although some people never get permenent teeth, and others > get a third set. Genetics, I guess). > kam > -- > whuxl!stu16 Yes indeed, baby teeth at the age of 10! Last summer my 10 year old (now 11) step daughter lost one of her baby teeth. I distinctly remember baby teeth coming out at a similar age. Baby teeth BEGIN being replaced by about the age of 6; this continues through about the age of 11 or 12. Yes, I've heard of wisdom teeth coming in as young as 12, but that is RARE. They usually come in sometime between ages 14 to early 20s. However, wisdom teeth don't replace baby teeth, they are an addition to the tooth set, as are several other teeth (such as, I think, some molars). -- Suzanne Barnett-Scott uucp: ...{decvax,ihnp4,noao,savax,seismo}!terak!suze CalComp/Sanders Display Products Division 14151 N 76th Street, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 (602) 998-4800