lauri@fritz.UUCP (Lauri McFadden) (03/16/86)
I am having a frustrating experience with my daughter. She is six weeks old and she has decided that she doesn't really enjoy breast feeding. Her first feeding in the morning always goes well. She sleeps through the night so she's really hungry at this point and I have no problems. However, with her subsequent feedings she almost invariably decides that she wants to cry at my breast. Sometimes she will feed for about five minutes and then she will decide to cry, sometimes she doesn't really feed at all. Needless to say, this can be very frustrating for both of us... What my husband and I have decided to do is to let her cry it out and really get hungry. This seems to work eventually, but she really gets worked up and I'm not so sure that's good for her and she doesn't seem to be learning from it. I think it might be our fault because we have fed her out of a bottle when we go out, so I think she might prefer to eat out of a bottle. Today she was crying at my breast, so I grabbed an empty bottle and gave it to her to see if she would suck and sure enough she did. I'm torn about bottle and breast feeding. Breast feeding is definitely better for her and it's cheaper and I can enjoy it but.... bottle feeding is faster and my husband can help me. Also, I have heard that certain foods can be irritating to a baby's tummy. One of these such foods is chocolate. Do any of you out there know any other things I should avoid. I would appreciate all the help I can get as soon as soon as possible. Thanks in advance!! -- Lauri L. McFadden trwrb!felix!lauri
jeanette@randvax.UUCP (Jeanette Haritan) (03/17/86)
In article <419@fritz.UUCP> lauri@fritz.UUCP (Lauri McFadden) writes: > > >I am having a frustrating experience with my daughter. She is six weeks old >and she has decided that she doesn't really enjoy breast feeding. Her first >feeding in the morning always goes well. She sleeps through the night so >she's really hungry at this point and I have no problems. However, with her >subsequent feedings she almost invariably decides that she wants to cry at >my breast. Sometimes she will feed for about five minutes and then she will >decide to cry, sometimes she doesn't really feed at all. Needless to say, >this can be very frustrating for both of us... > >I think it might be our fault because we have fed her out of a bottle when >we go out, so I think she might prefer to eat out of a bottle. Today she >was crying at my breast, so I grabbed an empty bottle and gave it to her >to see if she would suck and sure enough she did. > There is a small plastic devise that mothers with inverted nipples use that you may find helpful. It gives the child the feeling that she is feeding from a bottle, but in reality you are both still receiving the benefits from breast feeding. > >Also, I have heard that certain foods can be irritating to a baby's tummy. >One of these such foods is chocolate. Do any of you out there know any >other things I should avoid. You should also avoid oranges, strawberries, cabbage, brussel sprouts, broccoli, spinach, cauliflower,and anything spicy. It sounds like alot, but all these things really upset my baby's tummy. Every baby is different, so you can try these foods and see if it upsets her before you totally eliminate it from your diet. Laura J. Morrison Guest on this account -- jeannette haritan yeah sure
mezak@cae780.UUCP (Steve Mezak) (03/18/86)
In article <419@fritz.UUCP> lauri@fritz.UUCP (Lauri McFadden) writes: > > >I am having a frustrating experience with my daughter. She is six weeks old >and she has decided that she doesn't really enjoy breast feeding. <Also, I have heard that certain foods can be irritating to a baby's tummy. >One of these such foods is chocolate. Do any of you out there know any >other things I should avoid. > Try getting a copy of The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding by the La Leche League International. My wife has a copy and found that it contains a great deal of good advice. She says that switching between bottle and breast can cause "nipple confusion" for the baby. Foods can cause a problem, like garlic, cabbage, beans and other gassy foods. The book mentions a mother that had a problem with breast feeding because the spray deodorant she used irritated the baby. Switching to a stick deodorant fixed the problem. If you want the baby to sleep try drinking some wine before breast feeding!
rosen@exit26.DEC (Barry Rosen) (03/19/86)
Lauri, Since I'm male, I'm certainly not the expert here but my wife and I (yes, the two of us) have been very successful. I am assuming (not always the right thing to do) that your non-breast feedings are not of expressed breast milk and that are probably one of the prepared formulas. These differ widely (you'd find it hard to believe how much) not only in their content but in the quantity of each of the ingredients. I can not recall the brand name, but there is at least one which attempts to mimic the ingredient ratios in human breast milk. If you are interested, I will try to find it for you. Many of the prepared formulas have various sugars added to them in some quantity (sucrose, maltose, glucose, etc.) There is much discussion on this, much of it centered on not only the need but the quantity and type. There are some groups which feel that there is some "addicting" to many of the formulas. Understand that there is also a very strong manufacturer "lobby" out there. Bottom line, the formulas may "taste" better and create a perceived need for your baby. Bottle feeding is considered to be "easier" (from the baby's perspective) than breast feeding which requires more work from the baby. Some baby's will switch back and forth more easily than others. Suggestions: Consider investigating other formulae. Consider whether you would be comfortable in expressing milk for use in a bottle at times when you do not want to or can't breastfeed. This also opens some additional opportunity for your husband to participate in feeding without utilizing formulas. Try to use one of the bottle nipples which claim to more closely present a contour resembling the human nipple. There were a few brands that did this but the only one that comes to mind now is NUK. A book published by LaLeche League called, "The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding," is still one of the best books I have read on this topic. The organization (whether you belong or not) is also a very good local support group and can even refer you to physicians who are supportive and knowledgeable about such things as taking drugs (medicine) while breastfeeding, etc. The also have a wealth of information which I know they will eagerly share with you. As for foods to avoid, I almost hate to touch this one because I am convinced and now the clinical evidence is mounting rapidly in this country finally, that little was known about foods, breastfeeding and sensitizing babies. Immunologists and allergists are just now slowly beginning to recognize some of these connections. Chocolate, which you mention, is not only bad for you (I love it) but it is one of the most sensitizing foods on the market for babies. It not only can sensitize them to chocolate but also to other things. Most of the allergists I know ask their patients to remove this from their diet immediately whether tests show allergies or not. Many of the foods which we find gas producing should not be eaten because they can make the nursing baby behave the same way. Some books written for the lay person which I think you might find helpful are those written by Doris Rapp, M.D. She is a pediatrician- allergist that explains many of the newer findings concerning allergies, how they can present themselves, many of the common allergins and how early "history" can affect children later. She is very clear and can produce demonstratable and reproducible results. Barry Posted: Wed 19-Mar-1986 14:29 EST To: RHEA::DECWRL::"net.kids"
eisaman@ihlpl.UUCP (Eisaman) (03/20/86)
> In article <419@fritz.UUCP> lauri@fritz.UUCP (Lauri McFadden) writes: > > > > > >I am having a frustrating experience with my daughter. She is six weeks old > >and she has decided that she doesn't really enjoy breast feeding. Her first > >feeding in the morning always goes well. She sleeps through the night so > >she's really hungry at this point and I have no problems. However, with her > >subsequent feedings she almost invariably decides that she wants to cry at > >my breast. Sometimes she will feed for about five minutes and then she will > >decide to cry, sometimes she doesn't really feed at all. Needless to say, > >this can be very frustrating for both of us... > > > >I think it might be our fault because we have fed her out of a bottle when > >we go out, so I think she might prefer to eat out of a bottle. Today she > >was crying at my breast, so I grabbed an empty bottle and gave it to her > >to see if she would suck and sure enough she did. > > > There is a small plastic devise that mothers with inverted nipples use > that you may find helpful. It gives the child the feeling that she is > feeding from a bottle, but in reality you are both still receiving the > benefits from breast feeding. > > > >Also, I have heard that certain foods can be irritating to a baby's tummy. > >One of these such foods is chocolate. Do any of you out there know any > >other things I should avoid. > > You should also avoid oranges, strawberries, cabbage, brussel sprouts, > broccoli, spinach, cauliflower,and anything spicy. It sounds like alot, > but all these things really upset my baby's tummy. Every baby is different, > so you can try these foods and see if it upsets her before you totally > eliminate it from your diet. > > Laura J. Morrison > Guest on this account > -- > jeannette haritan > > yeah sure My wife has had problems breast feeding our son. In the hospital, without our consent, the nurses gave him a bottle. We didn't know about it until we left the hospital and called after the next couple of days because he wouldn't eat. One of the nurses suggested using a beast shield and eventually wean him from that. We tried that and he ate for a while but it still wasn't what he wanted. He would take her milk when she pumped it and put it in a bottle but not from her breast, even when she dripped it into his mouth. We tried everything we could think of to get him to breast feed but he wouldn't do it. When he was about four weeks old, and losing weight, we put him on formula. I think that the main reason is that he was bottle fed several times in the hospital. The nurses feed him despite our requests to wake up my wife and have her breast feed. Also I don't beleive that the nipple sheild helped. I would suggest that you keep trying to breast feed your baby as long as you can.