[net.astro] astronomical references/algorithms wanted

f.wales@glasgow.UUCP (f.wales) (03/09/84)

For a project, I am currently attempting to program an HP-41CX to compute the
position of any stellar object, or any object in a solar orbit, and I am on
the lookout for any references to efficient algorithms or data packing 
techniques which others performing similar computations may have found
worthwhile -- not necessarily on a 41, but for any computer (or even just
bare algorithms).  I would be extremely grateful of any assistance which
anyone could offer in this regard.
   For what it's worth, count me in a `yes' vote for net.micro.hp41.

				Thanks,
				  RPN OK RULES!,
					Frank Wales (PPC #7931)	/;^)

julian@deepthot.UUCP (Julian Davies) (03/19/84)

I suppose the phases of the moon might be computed reasonably with e
sine curve, but for anything more precise, the moon is the worst
object of all to compute positions of.  Its motion is decidedly
non-linear.  good luck!

flinn@seismo.UUCP (E. A. Flinn) (03/19/84)

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I just posted a note to net.micro, where I saw somebody saying that he
had looked up the length of the lunar synodic month in a handbook, and
then used that number to calculate phase of the moon at any other
time.  The Moon's orbit is seriously perturbed by gravitational
attraction of other bodies in the solar system, and by its own and the
other bodies' deviations from spherical symmetry, so the synodic
period varies a good deal - 1% or so.  You wouldn't have to
extrapolate very many periods before you began to get the phases
wrong.

Serious lunar phase calculators should consider trying to get copies
of the lunar ephemeris tapes from JPL or the University of Texas at
Austin - the latter have been doing lunar laser ranging since 1979,
and can tell you the position of the Moon to within a foot or so.

rivers@seismo.UUCP (Wilmer Rivers) (03/19/84)

Don't forget the U.S. Naval Observatory in Washington, D.C. Two
of their main jobs are calculating ephimerides and answering
inquiries from the public.

phil@unisoft.UUCP (Phil Ronzone) (03/20/84)

Want you need is an ephemeris.
Large bookstore carry them (under astrology mostly! not usually atronomy!!).
Good ones give refs/formulas.

gam@proper.UUCP (Gordon Moffett) (03/21/84)

#
"Mathematical Astronomy with a pocket calculator" [sic] by
Aubrey Jones, Halsted Press/John Wiley & Sons (1978).

This is the only book I have found to provide formulas for calculating
positions of planets.  Unfortunately, I find the book tough reading,
mainly because it assumes you are using an HP-25 (or HP-67 or HP-97)
programmable calculator and without an understanding of that
language the examples can be confusing.

Oh, for completeness: ISBN 0 470 26552 3

richard@sequent.UUCP (03/21/84)

I'd appreciate it if someone could help me with the following:

How does on compute what phase the mon will be in for any day of
any year?  I suppose this could be expressed in terms of degrees
since the movement is sinusoidal.  Any help out there?

			from the confused and bleeding fingertips of
				...!sequent!richard

bill@utastro.UUCP (William H. Jefferys) (03/21/84)

> Want you need is an ephemeris.
> Large bookstore carry them (under astrology mostly! not usually atronomy!!).
> Good ones give refs/formulas.

The Astronomical Almanac (Formerly American Ephemeris and Nautical
Almanac) is available from

	Superintendent of Documents
	U. S. Government Printing Office
	Washington DC 20402
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	Bill Jefferys  8-%
	Astronomy Dept, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712   (USnail)
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rck@iham1.UUCP (s dust) (03/22/84)

"Practical Astronomy with Your Calculator"
	by Peter Duffet-Smith
	(Cambridge Press?)

Is another book that contains many astronomical algorithms
in it.  This book doesn't assume any particular calculator.
The algorithms are also quite easy to coerce into your
favorite programming language.

				R. C. Kukuk
				AT&T Bell Labs
				Naperville, Ill.