[net.astro] Equivalence Principle and Electric Charge

act@pur-phy.UUCP (Alex C. Tselis) (12/02/84)

I have a question concerning the apparent paradox between electromagnetic
theory and the equivalence principle.  I hope those who know about these
sorts of things can resolve this paradox in an easy way.
The question concerns the behavior of electric charges in a gravitational
field.  Suppose that I were to take an electrical charge (a point charge or
a distributed one; it makes no difference), put a force on it and accelerated
it.  It would then radiate electromagnetic waves.  Now suppose that I were
to place this charge on a table in my office.  The charge is in a gravitational
field (due to the earth).  But according to the equivalence principle, a
gravitational field is equivalent to an acceleration (at least locally; I can
always make the distribution of charge so that it is confined to a small
enough spatial region so that the earth's gravitational field can be taken
to be uniform over it.).  However, this charge does not radiate, even though
it is in a situation which is equivalent to an acceleration.  How is this 
resolved?

gwyn@brl-tgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn <gwyn>) (12/08/84)

> ...  Suppose that I were to take an electrical charge ..., put a force on
> it and accelerated it.  It would then radiate electromagnetic waves.  Now
> suppose that I were to place this charge on a table in my office.  The
> charge is in a gravitational field ...  However, this charge does not
> radiate, even though it is in a situation which is equivalent to an
> acceleration.

I think it would, if you were in free-fall.  Similarly, if you had been
attached to the charge's rest frame in the first example, I don't think
it would appear to radiate.  However, it has been a long time since I was
up on this stuff...

ethan@utastro.UUCP (Ethan Vishniac) (12/08/84)

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I've never thought about this before, and I suspect that
working out the full answer is quite time consuming.  However,
I think I know what the resolution must be.  The equivalence
of gravity and acceleration (for an object on the surface of
the Earth) is a *local* equivalence.  On the other hand, the
radiation of electromagnetic waves necessarily involves the
application of boundary conditions at infinity (i.e. no incoming
waves in the Minkowski frame, something more complicated but
along the same lines when curvature is invoked).  Therefore there
is not necessarily a paradox involved here.  On the other hand,
it would be nice if someone worked this one out.  Any volunteers?


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berry@zinfandel.UUCP (Berry Kercheval) (12/10/84)

Charges radiate EM when accelerated.  If a charge is resting on
a table (as I believe the original query was phrased) in a 
graviataional field, then (ignoring rotation of the Earth) it is
at rest, NOT being accelerated. Gravity pulls down, the table pushes up.


Acceleration of a charge WILL cause it to radiate, whether said acceleration
is due to gravity, magnetic fields, fusion rockets or telekinesis.

You don't need to drag Minkowski into it.
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