wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) (07/11/85)
"net.astro" seems to be the closest thing we have to a group for meteorology-related topics, I think... I know that tempaerature variations on the surface of the earth depend on an awful lot of different factors; as far as I know, the main locations where the temperature varies minimally are in the tropics, where it just varies between "hot" and "too hot", depending on seasons and local factors. What I am wondering is whether there is some place on the earth where the temperature stays between certain limited but temperate points for a large percentage of the time (like 95% or so)? What I am looking for is a site where the temperature never(*) drops below freezing, and never gets above, say, 80 degrees F or so, for totally natural reasons (i.e., the inside of a building doesn't count). Maybe some island somewhere, or some mountain valley in the tropics, or some coastal location warmed by currents, or the like? (* "Never" means something like "95% of the time" in this statement.) Thanks for your help! Regards, Will Martin USENET: seismo!brl-bmd!wmartin or ARPA/MILNET: wmartin@almsa-1.ARPA
barryg@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Lee Gold) (07/16/85)
To the best of my knowledge, your criteria (hardly ever freezing or over 80 degrees) are met by San Francisco--and to a lesser extent by Berkeley. Here in LA we get several weeks a year of over 80 degrees but none under freezing. If you're looking for comfort, I suggest you add something about humidity %age to your criteria. 80 degrees at 90% humidity is a lot more uncomfortable than 95 degrees at 10% humidity. --Lee Gold
9234dwz@houxf.UUCP (The Rev. Peak) (07/16/85)
Will,
Never below freezing, never above 80(95% probability).
If you'd said 85 I have the place for you.
Madeira & the Azores(Acores) long known by British geriatrics
for it's almost perpetual spring weather. Madiera used to have lots
of nursing homes in the early part of this century.
The abundance of all kinds of flowers is staggering. I had rented
a car on San Miguel and went driving around narrow country roads, and on
rounding a curve the road ahead was almost totally blocked by bird of
paradise flowers teeming over the stone walls into the roadway. Now
I'll try and avoid small animals and stuff in the road but this is the
only time I've ever stopped for flowers etc. I was able to move sufficient
numbers aside so I could get the car through.
Definately one place I'm determined to return to.
Dave Peak
@ !hotel!dxp
"All the net's a stage and all the men & women merely ham actors !"
- Rev Peaksivan@aero.ARPA (Sivan Mahadevan ) (07/16/85)
In article <11497@brl-tgr.ARPA> wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) writes: > >What I am looking for is a site where the temperature never(*) drops >below freezing, and never gets above, say, 80 degrees F or so, for >totally natural reasons (i.e., the inside of a building doesn't count). >Maybe some island somewhere, or some mountain valley in the tropics, or >some coastal location warmed by currents, or the like? > Singapore, which is 1 degree north of the equator, has very little fluctuation in temperature. During "Winter" the temperatures range from about 70 F to 80 F and during "Summer" the termperatures range from about 75 F to 90 F. If you don't like humidity or are not used to it then the Singapore climate might seem kind of uncomfortable but one can certainly get used to it. Compared to other tropical cities of similar climate, Singapore is probably the most pleasant because the government makes it a point to fill the city with lots of green vegetation. Anyone from a tropical region knows that such vegetation will make an enormous differrence in the relative climate. Sivan Mahadevan Computer Science Laboratory The Aerospace Corporation Los Angeles ARPA: sivan@aerospace UUCP: sivan@aero.uucp BELL: 213-648-6677
rdz@ccice5.UUCP (Robert D. Zarcone) (07/16/85)
> > What I am looking for is a site where the temperature never(*) drops > below freezing, and never gets above, say, 80 degrees F or so, for > totally natural reasons (i.e., the inside of a building doesn't count). > Maybe some island somewhere, or some mountain valley in the tropics, or > some coastal location warmed by currents, or the like? > > (* "Never" means something like "95% of the time" in this statement.) > I may be wrong, but I think the San Francisco Bay area ( and possibly on up to Vancouver? ) fits the bill. I know you won't find that on the East Coast! (Without matching humidity, that is). *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***
bob@islenet.UUCP (Bob Cunningham) (07/17/85)
> ... What I am wondering is whether there is some place on > the earth where the temperature stays between certain limited but > temperate points for a large percentage of the time (like 95% or so)? > > What I am looking for is a site where the temperature never(*) drops > below freezing, and never gets above, say, 80 degrees F or so, for > totally natural reasons (i.e., the inside of a building doesn't count). > Maybe some island somewhere, or some mountain valley in the tropics, or > some coastal location warmed by currents, or the like? > > (* "Never" means something like "95% of the time" in this statement.) Sounds like some spot about halfway up Mauna Kea here would fit your criterion. At sea level here in the islands, the lowest temperature in a year would be 50-something (fahrenheit), and the highest temperture would be 90-something. As you move up in elevation, the temperatures tend to get lower (with nightime low temperatures dropping faster than daytime highs, though). At the top of Mauna Kea it definitely gets below freezing in the winter (and snows enough for skiing for 1-2 months). The main thing to remember is that temperatures vary not only with latitude (and definitely also with local conditions), but also with elevation. -- Bob Cunningham {dual|vortex|ihnp4}!islenet!bob Honolulu, Hawaii
cox@lamont.UUCP (simon cox) (07/17/85)
> > What I am looking for is a site where the temperature never(*) drops > below freezing, and never gets above, say, 80 degrees F or so, for > totally natural reasons (i.e., the inside of a building doesn't count). > Maybe some island somewhere, or some mountain valley in the tropics, or > some coastal location warmed by currents, or the like? > > (* "Never" means something like "95% of the time" in this statement.) > Try most of western Europe, especially UK. ( you must not, however, mind light rain just about all year round: annual precipitation only 20-60", but *not* in just a few big dumps!)
phl@drusd.UUCP (LavettePH) (07/18/85)
You can find your requirements just about any place on the planet. Just go un- der ground about ten feet. The temperature will seldom be below forty and rare- ly be above eighty. - Phil
chris@scgvaxd.UUCP (Chris Yoder) (07/18/85)
[Go ahead bug, make my day] In article <272@aero.ARPA> sivan@aero.UUCP (Sivan Mahadevan (ISRO)) writes: >In article <11497@brl-tgr.ARPA> wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) writes: >> >>What I am looking for is a site where the temperature never(*) drops >>below freezing, and never gets above, say, 80 degrees F or so, for >>totally natural reasons (i.e., the inside of a building doesn't count). >>Maybe some island somewhere, or some mountain valley in the tropics, or >>some coastal location warmed by currents, or the like? >> Hawaii, just about anywhere. I say just about because there are actually some places where it freezes, like on the top of Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa (both over 13,800 ft.). I lived on the Big Island (the island of Hawaii) in Hilo while growing up and it rarely got above 80 and even more rarely got below 60. Course, it rains 120 inches a year... (240 up the mountain a ways). Now all you have to do is scrounge up a job... -- -- Chris Yoder UUCP --- {allegra|ihnp4}!scgvaxd!engvax!chris <Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they're not out to get you...> { The opinions here are representative of Huge Aircrash, not me and *especially* not of my poor little keyboard. 8-)= }
bill@persci.UUCP (07/19/85)
>> What I am looking for is a site where the temperature never(*) drops >> below freezing, and never gets above, say, 80 degrees F or so, for >> totally natural reasons (i.e., the inside of a building doesn't count). >> Maybe some island somewhere, or some mountain valley in the tropics, or >> some coastal location warmed by currents, or the like? >> (* "Never" means something like "95% of the time" in this statement.) > >I may be wrong, but I think the San Francisco Bay area ( and possibly on up >to Vancouver? ) fits the bill. I know you won't find that on the East Coast! >(Without matching humidity, that is). > SF may match it, but there's little between there and Seattle that would. Seattle's pretty temperate, but it must be due to the constant gray skies and eternal drizzle. Try Vancouver B.C. -- Bill Swan {ihnp4,decvax,allegra,...}!uw-beaver!tikal!persci!bill
brown@utflis.UUCP (Susan Brown) (07/19/85)
In article <11497@brl-tgr.ARPA> wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) writes: >I know that tempaerature variations on the surface of the earth depend >on an awful lot of different factors; as far as I know, the main >locations where the temperature varies minimally are in the tropics, >where it just varies between "hot" and "too hot", depending on seasons >and local factors. What I am wondering is whether there is some place on >the earth where the temperature stays between certain limited but >temperate points for a large percentage of the time (like 95% or so)? >What I am looking for is a site where the temperature never(*) drops >below freezing, and never gets above, say, 80 degrees F or so, for >totally natural reasons (i.e., the inside of a building doesn't count). >Maybe some island somewhere, or some mountain valley in the tropics, or >some coastal location warmed by currents, or the like? >The area just inland and north of San Diego and just south of Escondido, California touts itself as ideal, but it wouldn't quite stay below 80 all the time. The desert is to the east and the Lake Hodges trench runs west to the Pacific, carrying cool air in. They tend to stand each other off most of the time. Sometimes a hot Santa Anna wind from the desert will dominate however. (My father chose to retire there - Rancho Bernardo). Of course the San Diego Zoo also claims that the near perfect climate is what enables them to have such a good botanical and zoological collection. This place is just down the mountain from the Palomar observatory.
steiny@scc.UUCP (Don Steiny) (07/21/85)
> > In article <11497@brl-tgr.ARPA> wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) writes: > > > >What I am looking for is a site where the temperature never(*) drops > >below freezing, and never gets above, say, 80 degrees F or so, for > >totally natural reasons (i.e., the inside of a building doesn't count). > >Maybe some island somewhere, or some mountain valley in the tropics, or > >some coastal location warmed by currents, or the like? > > > Well, I won't say that it NEVER drops below freezing here, but it does not do it every year, and then only one or two days per year and then only a little below freezing (25 degrees at 4 a.m.). It even snowed enough to stick back in 1976, but that only happens every 10 or 20 years. It also gets as high as 100 degrees every three or four years for a day or two (mid to high 90's). In general, the temperature here is between 55 and 75 degrees year around. In general, I would say that Santa Cruz has some of the best climate in the world. -- scc!steiny Don Steiny Don Steiny Software 109 Torrey Pine Terrace Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060
rsf@Shasta.ARPA (07/22/85)
Most of New Zealand falls into this range (32 to 80 Fahrenheit, +/- 5 degrees on occasions), especially the coastal areas. Ross.
maa@ssc-bee.UUCP (Mark A Allyn) (07/22/85)
> To the best of my knowledge, your criteria (hardly ever freezing or > over 80 degrees) are met by San Francisco--and to a lesser extent by > Berkeley. Except for a few days in the summer (which is right now) and a few days in winter, Seattle, Wa. also meets your criteria. M.Allyn uw-beaver!ssc-vax!ssc-bee!maa
bill@persci.UUCP (07/23/85)
>Except for a few days in the summer (which is right now) and a few >days in winter, Seattle, Wa. also meets your criteria. > M.Allyn > uw-beaver!ssc-vax!ssc-bee!maa Ahem. That's generally true, but don't forget all the sub-freezing temperature we got last winter (and what a *MESS* that snow made of things here!!). Besides, you gotta love gray skies to live here! Did the original poster have any requirements as to precipitation, or was he only concerned with temperature?
nrh@lzwi.UUCP (N.R.HASLOCK) (07/24/85)
> What I am looking for is a site where the temperature never(*) drops > below freezing, and never gets above, say, 80 degrees F or so, for > totally natural reasons (i.e., the inside of a building doesn't count). When I visited Bogota,Columbia I was told that the temperature there varied from 14 to 18 degrees C. I found no reason to doubt the assertion. -- -- {ihnp4|vax135|allegra}!lznv!nrh Nigel The Mad Englishman or The Madly Maundering Mumbler in the Wildernesses Everything you have read here is a figment of your imagination. Noone else in the universe currently subscribes to these opinions. "Its the rope, you know. You can't get it, you know."
rrw@ccice1.UUCP (Rick Wessman) (07/25/85)
In article <213@utflis.UUCP> brown@utflis.UUCP (Susan Brown) writes: >>The area just inland and north of San Diego and just south of Escondido, >California touts itself as ideal, but it wouldn't quite stay below 80 >all the time. The desert is to the east and the Lake Hodges trench runs >west to the Pacific, carrying cool air in. They tend to stand each other >off most of the time. Sometimes a hot Santa Anna wind from the desert >will dominate however. (My father chose to retire there - Rancho Bernardo). >Of course the San Diego Zoo also claims that the near perfect climate is >what enables them to have such a good botanical and zoological collection. >This place is just down the mountain from the Palomar observatory. I grew up in that area, and it is pretty near ideal. My hometown, Vista, is reputed to have the nation's perfect climate, and I can believe it. Aside from a few days when the Santa Anas blow, the weather is great. I definitely recommend it for the temperature-sensitive traveller. Rick