[net.tv.da] Does anybody else think the USA fired missiles first?

bstempleton@watmath.UUCP (Brad Templeton) (11/26/83)

The movie was quite clear that NATO used the first nukes by making
an attack on the advancing soviet troops in Germany, but what was less
clear was who launched the all-out strike first.

I made a tape of TDA, and my conclusion is that the USA did, although
it's not clear.  The scenes in the SAC flying command base which show
them picking up soviet ICBMS come AFTER the scenes of Kansas silos being
launched.   There is some vague mention of California radar, but that's
after too.  On the other hand, these scenes could very well not be
in chronological order.  This makes sense because I felt one of the most
effective scenes in the film was that of watching the missiles take off.
You saw them go (no other evidence of a war yet) and you thought
SH*T.  I'm going to die in 20 minutes!

But if the film did show the US firing first, I wonder why there has
been no comment on this from the film's opponents.

P.S.  For those who didn't like the U.S. panel, be glad you didn't
watch the Canadian one.  This turned into a big shouting match and got
little done except to show you how much of a redneck the editor of the
Toronto Sun is.  The American debate was a model of calm and reason in
comparison.  The participants themselves were ashamed of what it turned
into, I know from talking to one of them.
-- 
	Brad Templeton - Waterloo, Ont. (519) 886-7304

bch@unc.UUCP (Byron Howes ) (11/27/83)

It was supposedly unclear as to who launched first.  If, however, you
assume that the U.S. did not operate under a policy of "launch on war-
ning," then the U.S. would have had to be the one to have fired first.
More likely there was a relatively gradual escalation of nuclear strikes
in which eastern and western Europe were taken out first with the major
powers to follow.  If the U.S.S.R. viewed NATO as a U.S. surrogate
(much as we view the Warsaw Pact as a Soviet surrogate) then it hardly 
makes any difference as to whether U.S. or NATO tactical weapons were
fired first.  The deployment of Pershing II missiles in west Germany
(cited in the film as a provocation) forces the Soviet Union into a
policy of "launch on warning" as the time between launch and strike
becomes too short for analysis of the problem.  If this was the scenario
the film wished to portray, then any missile, bomber or radar noise
straying into Soviet air space would have been considered invitation
for a full-scale retaliation.  
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					Byron Howes
					UNC - Chapel Hill
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