[net.misc] Realities of IDDD moved from net.news

gam@amdahl.UUCP (Gordon A. Moffett) (01/02/85)

[ I'm trying to move this to net.misc as I don't know of an
  appropriate newsgroup ... ]

> 2) To place a long distance call from Rochester to a location outside of
> North America utilizing IDDD service of AT&T, you must first dial ""011"
> next the "country code," next the "city code (if one exists)" followed by 
> the "local number."   whew!! :-)   011 is designated by the Telephone Company
> as, "The International Area Code."    quote, unquote

My phonebook calls it "International Access Code".  And who/what is
"the Telephone Company" anyway?  (it was one year ago today ...).

> Realistically how many of us place personal phone calls utilizing IDDD?
> 
> Scenario:   You call your friend in Leningrad  011-671-812-999999  and get
>             a wrong number:  Call the credit operator for instant credit.
>             Now yah gotta be kidding me!

Last time I called the USSR (remember the krevax affair ...?) the
US Overseas operator said:
	"There'll be about a 2 hr wait."
me:	"Why?"
him:	"Because their phone system is very slow."
me:	"Oh."

On another occasion I was trying to make a collect call to
Palo Alto, CA, from Paris, France.  It went something like this:

me:	"Parlez-vous anglais?"
him:	"Yes, I speak English."
me:	"Oh, good.  I am trying to make a collect call to the United
	States."
him:	"You will have to wait 45 minutes."
me:	"Why?"
him:	"We are very busy."	(this was about 6:30 PM local time)

(I ended up dialing direct anyway, which was immediate).

I never took it seriously before that we have "the best phone system
in the world."  Now I believe it!

> 3) Even within the "Country Code" of "1," there are dialing anomalies.
> For example, just east of Rochester, the area code changes from 716 to 315.
> For people living near Rochester but in the 315 area code, all of the following
> are legitimate for calls for them within the 315 and 716 area codes.
> 
>                    555-9999      LOCAL call within 315 area code
>                  1 999-9999      LONG DISTANCE call within 315 area code
>                716 700-9999      LOCAL call within 716 area code
>              1 716 999-9999      LONG DISTANCE call within 716 area code

This is not exactly true; the reason you have cross-area-code calling
like that is because all the prefixes in the two area-code regions
are distinct: there can't be a 315-999-9999 and a 716-999-9999.
Such dialing used to be possible between the 415 and 408 area-codes
in the Bay Area but they ran out of prefixes and now the area-code is
required between the two regions.
-- 
Gordon A. Moffett		...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gam

37 22'50" N / 121 59'12" W	[ This is just me talking. ]

jrc@ritcv.UUCP (01/03/85)

me > 3) Even within the "Country Code" of "1," there are dialing anomalies.
me > For example, just east of Rochester, the area code changes from 716 to 315.
me > For people living near Rochester but in the 315 area code all the following
me > are legitimate for calls for them within the 315 and 716 area codes.

me >                    555-9999      LOCAL call within 315 area code
me >                  1 999-9999      LONG DISTANCE call within 315 area code
me >                716 700-9999      LOCAL call within 716 area code
me >              1 716 999-9999      LONG DISTANCE call within 716 area code

Gordon > This is not exactly true; the reason you have cross-area-code calling
Gordon > like that is because all the prefixes in the two area-code regions
Gordon > are distinct: there can't be a 315-999-9999 and a 716-999-9999.
Gordon > Such dialing used to be possible between the 415 and 408 area-codes
Gordon > in the Bay Area but they ran out of prefixes and now the area-code is
Gordon > required between the two regions.

Your hypothesis would be correct  ......... EXCEPT in this situation
we are dealing with two different "Telephone Companies"  (I never did have
a "Telephone Company" as Rochester was never serviced by an ATT company. :-)
New York Telephone Company utilizes the 716 (without the "1") to access the
Rochester Telephone Company circuits for local calls from the 315 area
code. Ironically, Rochester Telephone does not use the "315" area code to access
the "315" numbers that are local calls from Rochester.
To put it simply,  I dial 999-9999 to get (315) 999-9999, but they have to
dial 716-888-8888 to call me back.  (Adds a little more confusion!)

Gordon > Gordon A. Moffett		...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gam

me >  j.r.         {allegra,seismo}!rochester!ritcv!jrc