ags@pucc-k (Seaman) (11/23/83)
First, the corrected statement of the problem (as I gave it earlier): The referee tells S and P that he has chosen two integers, each greater than 1 but not greater than 100. He gives the sum to S and the product to P. (1) S announces that P does not know the sum. (2) P says he now knows the sum. (3) S says he now knows the product. As I have already pointed out, the original instructions from the referee (i.e. the stated bounds on the two integers) have a profound influence on the solution. The upper bound can be as small as 62 without affecting the outcome. If the upper bound is 61, there is no solution. If the upper bound is on the SUM of the two integers, rather than on the integers themselves, there is no unique solution. Here is the solution for the problem as I have stated it. When S makes statement (1), we can conclude that the sum is one of {11, 17, 23, 27, 29, 35, 37, 41, 47, 53}. Each of these numbers has the property that every corresponding product can be factored in more than one way AS A PRODUCT OF TWO INTEGERS WHICH SATISFY THE REFEREE'S CONDITIONS. The contents of this list of possible sums is highly sensitive to the original conditions stated by the referee. When P makes statement (2), we know he has a product that can correspond to exactly one of the sums in the list above. There are many such products: {18, 24, 28, 50, 52, 54, 76, 90, ... 700, 702}. Note that 70 is not on the list -- 70 can be factored as 7 * 10 or as 2 * 35, yielding sums of 17 or 37, both of which are on the list of possible sums. Therefore the claimed solution which was posted earlier is incorrect. Finally, when S makes statement (3), we know that his sum can correspond to only one of the possible products. There is exactly one sum with this property: 17, corresponding to the product 52. The original numbers are 4 and 13. Dave Seaman ..!pur-ee!pucc-k!ags
ags%pucc-k@phs.UUCP (Seaman) (11/23/83)
Relay-Version:version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site duke.UUCP Posting-Version:version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site pucc-k Path:duke!decvax!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!CS-Mordred!Pucc-H:Pucc-I:Pucc-K:ags Message-ID:<120@pucc-k> Date:Wed, 23-Nov-83 10:54:18 EST Organization:Purdue University Computing Center First, the corrected statement of the problem (as I gave it earlier): The referee tells S and P that he has chosen two integers, each greater than 1 but not greater than 100. He gives the sum to S and the product to P. (1) S announces that P does not know the sum. (2) P says he now knows the sum. (3) S says he now knows the product. As I have already pointed out, the original instructions from the referee (i.e. the stated bounds on the two integers) have a profound influence on the solution. The upper bound can be as small as 62 without affecting the outcome. If the upper bound is 61, there is no solution. If the upper bound is on the SUM of the two integers, rather than on the integers themselves, there is no unique solution. Here is the solution for the problem as I have stated it. When S makes statement (1), we can conclude that the sum is one of {11, 17, 23, 27, 29, 35, 37, 41, 47, 53}. Each of these numbers has the property that every corresponding product can be factored in more than one way AS A PRODUCT OF TWO INTEGERS WHICH SATISFY THE REFEREE'S CONDITIONS. The contents of this list of possible sums is highly sensitive to the original conditions stated by the referee. When P makes statement (2), we know he has a product that can correspond to exactly one of the sums in the list above. There are many such products: {18, 24, 28, 50, 52, 54, 76, 90, ... 700, 702}. Note that 70 is not on the list -- 70 can be factored as 7 * 10 or as 2 * 35, yielding sums of 17 or 37, both of which are on the list of possible sums. Therefore the claimed solution which was posted earlier is incorrect. Finally, when S makes statement (3), we know that his sum can correspond to only one of the possible products. There is exactly one sum with this property: 17, corresponding to the product 52. The original numbers are 4 and 13. Dave Seaman ..!pur-ee!pucc-k!ags