[net.puzzle] Sail boat pennant

fbp@cybvax0.UUCP (Rick Peralta) (07/22/85)

Wnen a sail boat is running a pennant on the mast would point
towards the bow.  This would hold true even if you started to
come about (untill you were no longer running).  Of course it
would point towards the stern if close hauled.

How about a quickie ?

	Which is the longest U.S. coast line ?

Rick
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schoeller@alien.DEC (Nuclear holocaust 20 minutes away...film at 11:00.) (07/24/85)

> Subject: Sailboat pennant
> Posted: Mon Jul 22 07:58:15 1985
> Organization: Cybermation, Inc., Cambridge, MA
>  
> Wnen a sail boat is running a pennant on the mast would point
> towards the bow.  This would hold true even if you started to
> come about (untill you were no longer running).  Of course it
> would point towards the stern if close hauled.
>  
> Rick

If a boat was jiving into the wind, wouldn't the pennant be pointing more
towards stern than bow?  Sure it would; and the boat would still be running.
Boat sails are made so that when the wind fills them up, they create an air-
foil.  This allows them to run without having the wind to their backs.  The
boat must cut the wind at an angle but not directly into the wind in order for
this to happen.  To move in the general direction of the wind, the boat must
"jive" (in other words, make a zig-zag pattern running the boat to a point to
the right of the source of wind and then to the left).  This causes the boat
to travel a greater distance, but it is still moving against the wind.  There-
fore, jiving the boat into the wind causes the pennent to point toward the
stern (not directly pointing at the stern {unless during a jive}, but more
towards stern than bow. 


>	Which is the longest U.S. coast line ?

As for the longest coast line, I would guess the California, Oregon, Washing-
ton, Alaska, Hawaii (Pacific Ocean) coast-line.

fbp@cybvax0.UUCP (Rick Peralta) (07/25/85)

In article <3258@decwrl.UUCP> schoeller@alien.DEC  writes:
>If a boat was jiving into the wind, wouldn't the pennant be pointing more
>towards stern than bow?  Sure it would; and the boat would still be running.
>Boat sails are made so that when the wind fills them up, they create an air-
>foil.  This allows them to run without having the wind to their backs.  The
>boat must cut the wind at an angle but not directly into the wind in order for
>this to happen.  To move in the general direction of the wind, the boat must
>"jive" (in other words, make a zig-zag pattern running the boat to a point to
>the right of the source of wind and then to the left).  This causes the boat
>to travel a greater distance, but it is still moving against the wind.  There-
>fore, jiving the boat into the wind causes the pennent to point toward the
>stern (not directly pointing at the stern {unless during a jive}, but more
>towards stern than bow. 
>

I see what you are suggesting.  Sort of like skating on the apparent wind.
To get it to work wouldn't you have to pump the sail a bit as you came about ?
I'll try this next chance I get.  

>
>>	Which is the longest U.S. coast line ?
>
>As for the longest coast line, I would guess the California, Oregon, Washing-
>ton, Alaska, Hawaii (Pacific Ocean) coast-line.

Be carefull, this is sort of a trick question.

Rick
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peter@baylor.UUCP (Peter da Silva) (07/28/85)

> 	Which is the longest U.S. coast line ?

Guess #1: Alaska.

Guess #2: Little America.
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fbp@cybvax0.UUCP (Rick Peralta) (08/21/85)

A while ago I posted the Sail boat pennant question to net.puzzles.
(Which way should a pennant on a running sailboat face, the bow or stern?)
There were many correct answers (bow).   However, several people suggested
that it would be possable to get the pennant of a running boat to face the
stern (or at least away from the bow).  This was described as "jiving into
the wind" by several people.  I have spent many hours trying to figure out
what exactly they meant.  Could someone enlighten me ?


Rick  ...!cybvax0[!dmc0]!fbp

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