[net.puzzle] Long words

twb@mhuxh.UUCP (twb) (04/19/85)

Ques: What is the longest english word with only one vowel?
(I know of a 9 letter, single vowel word, anyone have a longer one?)

Ques: What is the longest english word that can be typed using a single row
	of a standard keyboard?
	(I know of a 10 letter word)
Tom.
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ph@wudma.UUCP (04/21/85)

> Ques: What is the longest english word with only one vowel?
> (I know of a 9 letter, single vowel word, anyone have a longer one?)
> 
> Ques: What is the longest english word that can be typed using a single row
> 	of a standard keyboard?
> 	(I know of a 10 letter word)

	And here's another one: What is the longest (= having the most
	letters) one-syllable english word?
	(I know one which is 8 letters, but it is only one-syllable in a
	dialect.)
						--pH
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wws@whuxlm.UUCP (Stoll W William) (04/21/85)

> > Ques: What is the longest english word with only one vowel?
> > (I know of a 9 letter, single vowel word, anyone have a longer one?)
> > 
> > Ques: What is the longest english word that can be typed using a single row
> > 	of a standard keyboard?
> > 	(I know of a 10 letter word)
> 
> 	And here's another one: What is the longest (= having the most
> 	letters) one-syllable english word?
> 	(I know one which is 8 letters, but it is only one-syllable in a
> 	dialect.)
> 						--pH

straights strengths

By the way, the second one also is single vowel.

Now let me propose one...
What is the shortest three-syllable word?  I could think of several
five-letter words, but was reduced to proper names to find a 4-letter
word.

Re: shortest sentence containing all the letters.

I used to watch Sesame Street when it first came out (it used to be
the only place Muppets could be found).  Big Bird discovered a *single*
word containing all the letters in the alphabet, in order even!
It was actually the alphabet itself, but he pronounced it

  '           '       '          u '       -- '
ab-buh-kuh-def-gee-jek-kull-muh-nop-kwer-stoov-wick-siz

Well, it was interesting at the time...

Bill Stoll, ..!whuxlm!wws

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gjerawlins@watdaisy.UUCP (Gregory J.E. Rawlins) (04/21/85)

In article <286@mhuxh.UUCP> twb@mhuxh.UUCP (twb) writes:
>Ques: What is the longest english word with only one vowel?
>(I know of a 9 letter, single vowel word, anyone have a longer one?)
	Please post it! The longest i could come up with was
"strength" which is only 8 letters long.
	greg.
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mag@whuxlm.UUCP (Gray Michael A) (04/22/85)

> 
> Now let me propose one...
> What is the shortest three-syllable word?  I could think of several
> five-letter words, but was reduced to proper names to find a 4-letter
> word.
> 
> Bill Stoll, ..!whuxlm!wws
> 
How about "area"?  and "aria"?

Here's another question:  Regarding cursive writing, what is the longest
word that can be written without a looped letter above or below the line?
An old copy of a Ripley's Believe It or Not claimed that there was a
tie between "reconnaissance" and "commissionaire", both 14 letters,
but I thought of a 15-letter one, in everyday use.

Mike Gray

mag@whuxlm.UUCP (Gray Michael A) (04/22/85)

> > 
> > Now let me propose one...
> > What is the shortest three-syllable word?  I could think of several
> > five-letter words, but was reduced to proper names to find a 4-letter
> > word.
> > 
> > Bill Stoll, ..!whuxlm!wws
> > 
> How about "area"?  and "aria"?
> 
Thought of a couple more - iota and idea.

Mike Gray

presley@mhuxj.UUCP (Joe Presley) (04/22/85)

> From: gjerawlins@watdaisy.UUCP (Gregory J.E. Rawlins)
> Message-ID: <7203@watdaisy.UUCP>
> >Ques: What is the longest english word with only one vowel?
> >(I know of a 9 letter, single vowel word, anyone have a longer one?)
> 	Please post it! The longest i could come up with was
> "strength" which is only 8 letters long.

Try adding an 's' to the end of it ... :-). 
-- 
Joe Presley (mhuxm!presley)

bobn@bmcg.UUCP (Bob Nebert) (04/23/85)

> Ques: What is the longest english word with only one vowel?
> (I know of a 9 letter, single vowel word, anyone have a longer one?)

>> How about HOLLYHOCKS. It onyl has one vowel but used twice??

schneider@vlnvax.DEC (04/23/85)

> What is the shortest three-syllable word?  I could think of several
> five-letter words, but was reduced to proper names to find a 4-letter
> word.

Area is an interesting 3-syllable, 4-letter word.  You can take the
last letter off and be left with a 1-syllable, 3-letter word.  This
leads to the question: Is the article "a" really two syllables?

		Daniel Schneider
		{decvax}!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-vlnvax!schneider

li63sfh@sdcc7.UUCP (Philip Kao) (04/23/85)

reply to shortest three syllable non-proper word
how about "iota" i think it means just a tiny
amount taken from greek or roman descent but is
not considered a proper noun.

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krs@amdahl.UUCP (Kris Stephens) (04/24/85)

> >Ques: What is the longest english word with only one vowel?
> >(I know of a 9 letter, single vowel word, anyone have a longer one?)
> 	Please post it! The longest i could come up with was
> "strength" which is only 8 letters long.
> 	greg.
> -- 

How 'bout   "strengths" ?
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dsr@uvacs.UUCP (Dana S. Richards) (04/26/85)

I am not always in tune with netiquette and how and why people use the net.
Do people who post puzzles do so in the spirit of a ice-breaker or are they
really looking for the best answer or better, are they looking for 
references.   I prefer the latter, but I am a stick in the mud sometimes.

For example here are some known answers to recent postings:

Longest one syllable word-
	Martin Gardner (all of whose books should be read and reread)
	in an uncollected column (about 6 years ago) mentioned the
	discovery SCHNAPSSED and BROUGHAMMED. (These are not in my WEB2
	but as I recall they were in Random House (?).)

Words in alphabetical order naturally-
	The long program given for this is far more complicated than
	the one-line egrep call in Kernighan & Pike (1984, p.104).
	They discovered, as Aho did years earlier while working on
	pattern matching, the word EGILOPS.  Actually they missed
	the below-the-line (WEB2) variant AEGILOPS.

Shortest word with all vowels-
	SEQUOIA (I dimly recall a foreign term with 6 letters ...)

Vowels in order-
	FACETIOUSLY and ABSTEMIOUSLY are well-known but there are about
	15 other examples that appeared in Word Ways:The Journal of
	Recreational Linguistics, an excellent source that settled
	these questions, and similar questions, years ago. 

1000 Lockers-
	This appeared in the first issue of the now defunct 4-Star Puzzler
	(an offshoot of the excellent Games magazine) and appeared
	in Honsberger's column years ago and is based on well-known
	excersize in Number Theory texts.

Shortest word list with letters in order-
	Do not recall the best known answer but is in Word Ways recently.

And now a challenge that was posted in Word Ways: Find the smallest
pangrammatic window in naturally occurring text, i.e. a contiguous set
of letters containing all 26 letters.  The current record is somewhat
less than 100 letters.

dsr@uvacs.UUCP (Dana S. Richards) (04/26/85)

I forgot to mention some other known answers to recent postings:

Shortest 3 syllable word-
	W

Weighing problems-
	These have been extensively studied over the last 40 years. e.g.
	Math Mag V61 (1977) 90-92
	AMM V87 (1980) 200-201

cipher@mmm.UUCP (Andre Guirard) (11/15/85)

In article <2052@uvacs.UUCP> dsr@uvacs.UUCP (Dana S. Richards) writes:
>Shortest word list with letters in order-
>	Do not recall the best known answer but is in Word Ways recently.

What do you mean, "shortest word list"?

The shortest word with letters in order is "a".



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gwyn@brl-tgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn <gwyn>) (11/15/85)

> >Shortest word list with letters in order-
> >	Do not recall the best known answer but is in Word Ways recently.
> 
> What do you mean, "shortest word list"?
> 
> The shortest word with letters in order is "a".

A mathematician would point out that the empty list is even shorter.

herb@uwvax.UUCP (Benington Herb) (11/15/85)

> > >Shortest word list with letters in order-
> > >	Do not recall the best known answer but is in Word Ways recently.
> > 
> > What do you mean, "shortest word list"?
> > 
> > The shortest word with letters in order is "a".
> 
> A mathematician would point out that the empty list is even shorter.

This problem has probably been on the net many times but my son posed it
recently and I need help.  What are some of the longest words with letters
in ascending order?  descending?  with repeats of same letter?  without repeats?What are other interesting,closely related problems?

Thanks for any help.   Herb

dsr@uvacs.UUCP (Dana S. Richards) (11/19/85)

> In article <2052@uvacs.UUCP> dsr@uvacs.UUCP (Dana S. Richards) writes:
> >Shortest word list with letters in order-
> >	Do not recall the best known answer but is in Word Ways recently.
> 
> What do you mean, "shortest word list"?
> 
> The shortest word with letters in order is "a".
> 
By "letters" I naturally meant all  26.
I have been unable to find the shortest, in terms of words, in Word Ways as
advertised but have found there a discussion of such lists with few
total letters.  The problem originated in the defunct Games and Puzzles.
Early solutions:
ABC, defy, ghi, jak, limn, op, queriest, uva, waxy, zo
absconder, fig, hijack, limn, opaque, rust, unviewed, ox, oyez
Later solutions:
ABC, defyghe, bij, sklim, nop, qris, tu, vow, XYZ
 ...                           queriest, uvrow, XYZ
ABC, def, ghi, jak, limn, op, qris, tu, vow, XYZ
Jeff Grant:
ABC, defog, hij, klam, nop, queriest, uvrow, XYZ
 ....                       qrs, tu, vow, XYZ
 ....       hijack, limnophil, queriest, uvrow, XYZ
Dimitri Borgmann:
a, bic, defog, hijack, limn, opaquer, stu, vow, oxy, oz
[oz, pyx, wave, ut, sir, quip, on, milk, jib, hug, fed, cob, a]

The last example(s) is composed of "easily-recognized" words;
the other examples require a variety of dictionaries.
I do not know of a claim of optimality wrt a set dictionaries.
I will leave to you to count the letters and words in each example.

As I recall someone posted a 3 (long) word example. What was it?
I would guess that 3 words is minimum.

What is the availability of dictionaries in computer format?
All we have is the spelling dictionary; I know that Web2, 7th Collegiate,
and the OSPD are being used somewhere.