dgary@ecsvax.UUCP (D Gary Grady) (03/18/85)
<> > I've heard of this before, that it's being suppressed, and no wonder, you > think the oil companies want it manufactured? We wouldn't be their slaves > any more! Hey, why do you think the dinosaurs so conveniently died out and turned into oil all of a sudden? The asteroid impact theory is OUT (see 8 March 1985 issue of SCIENCE). It was the @#$% oil companies!!! First the dinosaurs, then Lincoln, then Kennedy, and WHO DO YOU THINK REALLY OWNS THOSE HOT COALS THE FIREWALKERS USE????? Ahahahahahahaha!!! -- D Gary Grady Duke U Comp Center, Durham, NC 27706 (919) 684-3695 USENET: {seismo,decvax,ihnp4,akgua,etc.}!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary
jcjeff@ihlpg.UUCP (jeffreys) (03/19/85)
<> > I've heard of this before, that it's being suppressed, and no wonder, you > think the oil companies want it manufactured? The same thing happened in Britain, several people came up with excelent ideas for battery powered cars that would have a good milage rate, without the need for millions of car batterys to hold the charge. Their ideas were patented and then *bought* by the large oil companys. Have we now got lots of battery powered cars running around the UK ? Nnnnnooooooooooo we havn't. But we still have lots and lots of petrol driven cars and trucks! -- [ You called all the way from America - Joan Armatrading ] [ You're never alone with a rubber duck - Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ || From the keys of Richard Jeffreys ( British Citizen Overseas ) || || employed by North American Philips Corporation || || @ AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, Illinois || ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ || General disclaimer about anything and everything that I may have typed || ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag) (03/20/85)
> > I've heard of this before, that it's being suppressed, and no wonder, you > > think the oil companies want it manufactured? > > The same thing happened in Britain, several people came up with excelent > ideas for battery powered cars that would have a good milage rate, without > the need for millions of car batterys to hold the charge. Their ideas were > patented and then *bought* by the large oil companys. While it may or may not be true that oil companies have bought up and filed patents for worthwhile inventions, I hope none of you net-readers actually think that they've done this with a perpetual motion machine. The definition of a perpetual motion machine (it puts out more energy than it takes in) precludes its actual existance, *unless* the law of conservation of mass and energy turns out to be just a suggestion. This seems *very* unlikely. -- Jeff Sonntag ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j "What sheems to be the problem, Ossifer?"- T. Kennedy
rlp@cbosgd.UUCP (Bob Platt) (03/20/85)
It really is possible to produce a 'pill' that can be
mixed with water to make 'fuel'. It this case the
fuel is alcohol, and the 'pill' is called a Grignard
reagent. The catch (there had to be one) is that the
Grignard reagent is prepared USING alcohol.
R-OH + Na -> RO-Na + 1/2 H2
RO-Na + H2O -> NaOH + R-OH
For further details see "Organic Chemistry" 3rd Ed.
C 1973 Morrison & Boyd pg 526-527.
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"Wherever you go, there you are"dgary@ecsvax.UUCP (D Gary Grady) (03/20/85)
> The same thing happened in Britain, several people came up with excelent > ideas for battery powered cars that would have a good milage rate, without > the need for millions of car batterys to hold the charge. Their ideas were > patented and then *bought* by the large oil companys. So why haven't the Russians simply used the designs (patents are public information) to build a non-petrol fleet? In any event, just wait until the patent runs out... One might also note that batteries have to be charged from somewhere, presumably power plants, so energy companies would not be seriously hurt by battery-powered cars in the USA. And they could make a bundle licensing the patent. Some Oil Company Conspiracy tales don't make loads of sense. Any takers for the notion that anti-nuclear power activists are really in the pay of the oil companies? :-) -- D Gary Grady Duke U Comp Center, Durham, NC 27706 (919) 684-3695 USENET: {seismo,decvax,ihnp4,akgua,etc.}!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary
ron@brl-tgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (03/22/85)
> > RO-Na + H2O -> NaOH + R-OH > > For further details see "Organic Chemistry" 3rd Ed. > C 1973 Morrison & Boyd pg 526-527. Great, then we just have cars that travel around dumping lye all over the place. -Ron
harmon_c@h-sc1.UUCP (david harmon) (03/22/85)
> > > > RO-Na + H2O -> NaOH + R-OH > > > > For further details see "Organic Chemistry" 3rd Ed. > > C 1973 Morrison & Boyd pg 526-527. > > Great, then we just have cars that travel around dumping lye all over > the place. > > -Ron By the way, guess where those alkoxide salts (RO-Na) come from? Dave Harmon TANSTAAFL (-RAH)