[net.rec.wood] Any cures for Klutziness?

warren@ihnss.UUCP (11/14/83)

The recent item on matching edge-glued boards struck home, having
just spent considerable time planing away all of those little
mismatched edges.  I agree with the suggestion of doweling, and
would add another suggestion of groving the edges to hold alignment
and give you more gluing surface.  You can groving
attachments for table saws or shapers that cut various tongue and
grove patterns on the edges of boards.  Both of these approaches,
however, are only as good as your basic ability to work without
error, which brings me to my main point.

Anybody have any suggestions for alleviating basic klutziness in
woodworking that do not involve the purchase of exotic, expensive,
or space consuming tools?  I presume that I am not alone in my
difficulties in the areas outlined below, but I have seen little
helpful advice on the subject of how to be precise in woodworking
books or journals.  I am sure that ideas would be of interest to the
net.  Here are some areas in which I find my precision lacking:

Lining up edge joints:  Yes, a dowling jig helps, but I still wind
		up with slop due to slop in the jig and/or drilling
		at an angle.  A drill press would help, but I don't
		have room for one.

Getting edges REALLY straight.  I am amazed at how difficult this
		seems to be.  I gather a jointer would do this, but
		I don't have one.  I have tried shaving the edges
		with a planing blade on a table saw, but trying to
		hold an edge straight over anything more than about
		3' is really tough.  Anything I use for a guid seems
		to bend over that length.  I have also tried tuning
		up with hand planing, but this seems really tough.
		
Cutting true right angles.  I often end up with 91 or 89 degrees. 
		After a lot of experimentation, I made myself a
		home-made right angle jig for my table saw,
		consisting of a piece of plywood with a strip of
		wood on the bottom to slide in the slot and a strip
		on the top for a fence.  Better, but certainly not perfect!
		
Making precision cuts in large pieces.  In my current project, I
		will soon be faced with cutting dados in 6 foot long
		pieces.  I would just love to use my table saw, but
		see no way to control it on things this big, at
		least near the edges.  I will probably wind up using
		a hand saw and chisel or acquiring a hand router for
		this.  Table saws are lovely when the work fits on
		the table, but hopeless for anything large.
		
Precise measurements:  Many times I have wound up with slop because
		the measuring device slipped, or more commonly the
		saw or drill wouldn't bite into the wood where
		marked because of the grain.
		
Warp:		Maybe some woods never warp, but I never met them. 
		Even if everything is true when you start, I
		frequently wind up with warp before final assembly. 
		Maybe the secret is to finish quickly, but that is
		hopeless for me.
		
To start, I will contribute two tips on table saw woodworking that I
learned in a seminar that do seem to work fairly well:

1)	Cut miter joints with a jig with 2 sides set precisely at 90
	degrees from a good square, and then set at approsimately 45
	degrees to the blade.  You put the sides on a sheet of
	plywood and put a slat to fit the guide slot on the bottom. 
	You can get the joints as accurate as your 90 degree square,
	usually much better than any sort of adjustable setup.
	
2)	Cut finger joints (in which alternating fingers of both
	pieces overlap in the joint).  with a jig consisting of a
	peg the exact width of your blade protruding from a cross
	piece you can slide through the blade.  The peg should be
	exactly one blade width back from the blade.  Start the
	joint with one piece up against the peg, cut through, and
	then move the cut to fit over the peg.  Keep cutting and
	moving until you go all the way accross the piece.  Start
	the other side by taking your first side, turning it around
	and putting the last cut over the peg so that the edge now
	lines up with the blade.  This lets you cut the corner off
	to start the cuts on the second piece to precisely fit the
	first.  This really works well, if you get the thing lined
	up right to begin with.

-- 

	Warren Montgomery
	ihnss!warren
	IH x2494

snafu@ihuxi.UUCP (Dave Wallis) (11/16/83)

Warren,

I think the only really sure cure for klutziness is to practice,
practice, practice! If you need to make a particular joint for a
project you have in mind, get some scrap wood and make several
practice joints first. A little experience can go a long way, and
making mistakes is the best way I know to gain experience. A good
place to get helpful hints and draw on the experience of others is
craft magazines. The old standby Popular Mechanics has some really
good article on woodworking techniques and offers a lot of time and
trouble saving tips.
I find most of my "klutz" problems are due to
working too fast and not concentrating on what I'm doing. Studying the
plans thoroughly and making measurements several times help me a lot.
You mentioned some specific questions, so here are "my" (not the only
or even the best!) solutions:


>> Lining up edge joints:  Yes, a dowling jig helps, but I still wind
>> 		up with slop due to slop in the jig and/or drilling
>> 		at an angle.  A drill press would help, but I don't
>> 		have room for one.

You really shouldn't have any problems if you use a reasonable quality
jig. It clamps tightly to the edge of the board, and doesn't allow for
any drift or wobble of the drill. A drill press isn't necessary, and
won't improve the accuracy of the holes (in fact it will make setup
more difficult!). If you have never seen one used, it may be hard to
understand, but it is a really easy to use tool.

>> Getting edges REALLY straight.  I am amazed at how difficult this
>> 		seems to be.  I gather a jointer would do this, but
>> 		I don't have one.  I have tried shaving the edges
>> 		with a planing blade on a table saw, but trying to
>> 		hold an edge straight over anything more than about
>> 		3' is really tough.  Anything I use for a guid seems
>> 		to bend over that length.  I have also tried tuning
>> 		up with hand planing, but this seems really tough.

A relatively simple tool that helps a lot here is a mitre gauge
hold-down tool. This is simply a clamp that screws to the mitre gauge
of your table saw, and clamps the wood tightly to the mitre gauge.
This is only as accurate as your table saw/mitre gauge, however. If
the guides on your table are so worn that the mitre gauge wobbles, you
don't have a prayer no matter what you do.

>> Cutting true right angles.  I often end up with 91 or 89 degrees. 
>> 		After a lot of experimentation, I made myself a
>> 		home-made right angle jig for my table saw,
>> 		consisting of a piece of plywood with a strip of
>> 		wood on the bottom to slide in the slot and a strip
>> 		on the top for a fence.  Better, but certainly not perfect!
		
One rule of thumb I always follow is to never believe the calibration
on power tools. If I need to make an accurate 90 degree cut on a table
saw, I use a good square and adjust the mitre gauge until the board is
square to the blade, and then lock it all down. This is really true
for anything you do in woodworking - always verify that your equipment
is aligned properly each time you use it. This may sound like a lot of
work, but if your goal is quality work, it is well worth the effort.

>> Making precision cuts in large pieces.  In my current project, I
>> 		will soon be faced with cutting dados in 6 foot long
>> 		pieces.  I would just love to use my table saw, but
>> 		see no way to control it on things this big, at
>> 		least near the edges.  I will probably wind up using
>> 		a hand saw and chisel or acquiring a hand router for
>> 		this.  Table saws are lovely when the work fits on
>> 		the table, but hopeless for anything large.

Two things might help here. One is someone to help handle the boards,
and the other is a work support. The simplest of these is simply
a pipe on a weighted base with a 12 - 24 inch wide roller on top. You
adjust the roller to the height of your table, and let the board rest
on it. You can buy them commercially, or build your own. It doesn't
need to be fancy, as long as it supports the work (does a tire rim,
old water pipe, and a paint roller turn on a light bulb?). I have used
both methods on boards up to 10 feet long, and if you are careful, you
should get results just as accurate as with shorter boards.
		
>> Precise measurements:  Many times I have wound up with slop because
>> 		the measuring device slipped, or more commonly the
>> 		saw or drill wouldn't bite into the wood where
>> 		marked because of the grain.

The only solution here is to take more care in measuring - measure
everything at least twice. Whenever I get in a hurry and don't stick
to this rule, I wind up gluing boards back together! Also, you should
never drill a hole in wood without setting the hole with a
scratch-awl. Use it to punch a hole (don't be shy!) in the wood so
that the drill bit bites where you want it. I usually make a
scratch-awl by grinding an old screwdriver to a sharp point. A center
punch is not quite as good, because the point is at a shallower angle,
and it will not make as deep a hole, so I recommend sticking with the
scratch-awl. If you have to drill a large hole, it is usually a good
idea to drill a pilot hole with a smaller drill. The smaller drill is
much easier to control, and the larger drill bit will follow the pilot
hole without complaint.
		
>> Warp:		Maybe some woods never warp, but I never met them. 
>> 		Even if everything is true when you start, I
>> 		frequently wind up with warp before final assembly. 
>> 		Maybe the secret is to finish quickly, but that is
>> 		hopeless for me.
 
If you work with pine, warpage is a real problem. One solution is to
make sure the wood is thoroughly and properly dried. Not an easy task,
it usually boils down to sticking to the lumber yard that you have the
least trouble with. If the warpage is not too severe, there are a few
things that will help. If you check the boards for warpage before you
cut them up, good layout can help. Use the straightest boards for the
longer pieces, and the more severely warped boards for the shorter
pieces. If you cut the more warped boards into smaller pieces, you
will have less warp in each piece, and you may be able to isolate the
worst warped sections and throw them away. The same holds true for
knotty wood. The other hint is to clamp things securely. Most types of
clamps are not overly expensive, and they really pay off. For large
things like bookcases or dressers, pipe clamps and band clamps are a
must. for smaller items, good woodcrafters clamps (I really don't know
the proper name for them) are a good bet. These are the woodworkers
equivalent of the c-clamp. They are made out of wood, and have left
and right handed screws to allow you to clamp things tightly. Using
the right clamps allows you to pull loose or ill-fitting joints
together until the glue dries. They can help make up for a lot of
minor mistakes and warps (but no miracles! (well not many)).
Most of these clamps can be had for anywhere between 7 and 20 dollars,
depending on size and quality. I have seen all of them at SEARS, so
you should not have any problem finding what you need.

Hope this has helped you somewhat!


-- 


                               D. Wallis
                           ihnp4!ihuxi!snafu
                   AT&T Western Electric, Naperville Il.
                             (312) 979-5894

ell@linus.UUCP (Edward L. Lafferty) (11/19/83)

One thing that modern amateur woodworkers try to do is duplicate
professional procedures with inadequate tools. The only real substitute
for a thickness planer (in jointing edgewise) is a lot of hand planing
like they used to do before the invention of power. It is not only a
lot of work but to do it correctly takes a lot of practice. Gimmicks
like dowels, tongue and grooves, etc. add time to the procedure and
really help only slightly. I have a small thickness planer, made by
Williams & Hussey for which I paid about $500. This in combination with
a small (4") jointer have served me well for several glued-up table
tops. But there was still a need to plane by hand and surface sand with
a belt sander followed by lots of sanding, scraping, and cleanup. 

Dowels add little to the strength of the joint, too and since they
don't help enough in line-up, I don't use them. One thing I do in
clamping up a surface is to clamp a straight edge board crosswise to
the glue joints on both ends to keep at least one surface pretty even.
Then if the thickness is consistent and there isn't much warp in the
center, we have a good start toward a flat surface.

I agree with Dave Wallace: practice, practice, practice!!

				Ed Lafferty
				Mitre Corp.
				Bedford MA