[net.rec.wood] Paint Removal from Window Trim

tonti@ptsfc.UUCP (Guy Tonti) (01/03/86)

I realize that this newsgroup is not exactly for the purpose of answering
my question, but it seems to contain the most intelligent responses of the
groups I frequently read.

Thus my question.

I'd like some opinions on removing approximately 50 years of paint buildup 
on inside-the-house window trim.  It is very badly chipped, and I would like
to repaint it as smooth as possible.  Opinions would be appreciated as to 
the use of heat guns, etc.

Another part of this problem is the replacement of the sash cords, which have
almost all broken, and painted over.  Any help on their replacement would 
be most welcome.  

A good source book for either of these fun tasks would also be quite helpful.

Thanks in advance.

ell@linus.UUCP (Edward L. Lafferty) (01/11/86)

I would reccommend against using heat guns on old dry wood. In order
to be of much use they would have to be hot enought to scorch the wood
and would be very dangerous or at least damaging.

A better solution (although to someone with a lot of windows it might
not seem to be) is to use a good paint stripper,  Strypeze or others,
which clean up with water and steel wool (coarse). The few difficult
spots can be handled with a shaped scraper -- be careful and sparing
with this since it will easily remove the grace from the moldings on
the sash and trim.

Note: when you repaint (if you don't replace the putty and glass from
the other side), don't be afraid to get paint on the glass. It will
provide a moisture seal and also will be warmer in the winter. The
crack between the glass and the wood can develop a llot of space from
expansion and contraction over the years.

Sash cords are not difficult to replace and when you replace one cord
in an old window you should replace ALL four cords -- top and bottom
and both sides.

1. Remove the molding on each inside side. This is the thing that
holds the bottom window sash from falling into the room. There are
usually a small number of brass oval head screws holding it on. If you
do not intend to repaint the room and sash, you should slice the paint
joint between these pieces and the side trim with a razor blade before
removing the screws to prevent tearout.

2. pull out the bottom sash and if the cord in intact put a nail thru
the knot so it won't fall thru the pulley. You will use this to thread
the new cord into the pulley. 

3. Remove the small wooden panel inside the track that the bottom
window rides in. You will have access to the weight from here.

4. Pry out the thin strip that holds the top window in its track. Be
careful since this is delicate. 

5. Pull out the top sash as you did the bottom trying not to lose the
cord. In some cases you may find the cord nailed into the hole in the
sash or stapled in. Remove this and you will find the cord will pop
right out. (You should probably use a little nail to hold your new
cords in the sash -- its easier when replacing the sash.)

6. Using a piece of string and a small weight (nail or screw) you
should drop a piece of string thru each pulley and pull it out the
bottom. You can use the old cords to do this if they are intact. 

7. Find at least one cord from a top and one from a bottom that are
intact to use to cut your new cords to length -- take it off the
weight and open all the knots so you leave at least that much cord for
your new one. If you can't find an intact cord you will have to trial
and error the length. It must be just long enough so that the weight
drops to the bottom of the channel but does not rest on the floor and
when the window is open the pulley does not jam the cord. (Top cords
and bottom cords are different lengths).

8. Now just reverse the process. Do the top first. Put the new cords
into the weights, thread them up thru the pulley tie a knot at the
correct place cut off the excess, place the knot in the hole, secure
with a little nail and then carefully replace the sash in the channel.
Run it up and down to see if it slides freely. Then replace the thin
strip and do the same for the bottom sash. Replace the weight channel
covers and the the side moldings. Replace with new screws if needed.

9. And there you are.

10. Take your time and you will be satisfied with the result. One
caution: while it may seem overkill to nail the knot into the hole, it
is d--- frustrating to finish the whole job, paint the thing and then
have the cord pop out of the hole inside the structure when you open
the window.

You can probably replace the sash lock too for a nice job.

Ed Lafferty