spaf@gatech.CSNET (Gene Spafford) (11/29/85)
net.flame can no longer be considered to be a regular newsgroup. Over half of the backbone sites no longer (or never did) transmit net.flame articles, and there are many, many secondary sites which do not transmit net.flame. As such, I will no longer list net.flame in the list of active groups which I publish twice a month. I will *not* be issuing a "rmgroup" on net.flame, evene though it has, in effect, been removed. -- Gene "wedding done, thesis to go" Spafford The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 CSNet: Spaf @ GATech ARPA: Spaf%GATech.CSNet @ Relay.CS.NET uucp: ...!{akgua,decvax,hplabs,ihnp4,linus,seismo,ulysses}!gatech!spaf
apak@oddjob.UUCP (Adrian Kent) (12/04/85)
The list of active newsgroups isn't supposed to be a list of newsgroups of which the compiler approves. Net.flame continues to exist, and should be listed. Why does every change on the net have to be preceded by spurious justifications which are inconsistent with what actually happens? ( Net.bizarre : this group was improperly created some months ago. Therefore it should be killed. Must set the right precedent. By the way, don't bother trying properly to create it, because i don't like it. Net.flame : some of us don't want to pay to transmit this, so we won't. By the way, I think it would be only fair for me to try and write it out of history.) Kill all the good groups if you really want to, but stop insulting our intelligence with this rubbish.
spaf@gatech.CSNET (Gene Spafford) (12/05/85)
Net.flame currently reaches fewer people than do some of the groups with less than a "net" distribution, including na.forsale, the "eunet" groups, and very possible the "att" groups. The checkgroups message is supposed to be a list of groups with net-wide distribution. Since over half of the backbone sites won't even forward net.flame, I don't consider it to be a net-wide group. Therefore, I no longer list it in the checkgroups message. The checkgroups message is an advisory based on the list I keep. If you don't like the fact that "net.flame" is missing, either edit the checkgroups message before you run it, or else define MANUALLY when you compile news and then ignore the message checkgroups will give you about net.flame. Or simply stop running "checkgroups." -- Gene "wedding done, thesis to go" Spafford The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 CSNet: Spaf @ GATech ARPA: Spaf%GATech.CSNet @ Relay.CS.NET uucp: ...!{akgua,decvax,hplabs,ihnp4,linus,seismo,ulysses}!gatech!spaf