[net.news.sa] Removing net.flame

spaf@gatech.CSNET (Gene Spafford) (11/29/85)

net.flame can no longer be considered to be a regular newsgroup.
Over half of the backbone sites no longer (or never did) transmit
net.flame articles, and there are many, many secondary sites
which do not transmit net.flame.  As such, I will no longer
list net.flame in the list of active groups which I publish
twice a month.  

I will *not* be issuing a "rmgroup" on net.flame, evene though it
has, in effect, been removed.
-- 
Gene "wedding done, thesis to go" Spafford
The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332
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apak@oddjob.UUCP (Adrian Kent) (12/04/85)

The list of active newsgroups isn't supposed to be a list of newsgroups of 
which the compiler approves. Net.flame continues to exist, and should be
listed. Why does every change on the net have to be preceded by spurious
justifications which are inconsistent with what actually happens? 
( Net.bizarre : this group was improperly created some months ago. Therefore
it should be killed. Must set the right precedent. By the way, don't bother
trying properly to create it, because i don't like it.
  Net.flame : some of us don't want to pay to transmit this, so we won't.
By the way, I think it would be only fair for me to try and write it out of 
history.)
  Kill all the good groups if you really want to, but stop insulting our      
intelligence with this rubbish.                        

spaf@gatech.CSNET (Gene Spafford) (12/05/85)

Net.flame currently reaches fewer people than do some of the groups
with less than a "net" distribution, including na.forsale, the "eunet"
groups, and very possible the "att" groups.  The checkgroups message is
supposed to be a list of groups with net-wide distribution.  Since over
half of the backbone sites won't even forward net.flame, I don't
consider it to be a net-wide group.  Therefore, I no longer list it in
the checkgroups message.

The checkgroups message is an advisory based on the list I keep.  If
you don't like the fact that "net.flame" is missing, either edit the
checkgroups message before you run it, or else define MANUALLY when you
compile news and then ignore the message checkgroups will give you
about net.flame.

Or simply stop running "checkgroups."
-- 
Gene "wedding done, thesis to go" Spafford
The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332
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