sdyer@bbncca.ARPA (Steve Dyer) (01/06/84)
Will, WRT "lesbians and having a separate space", what is your feeling about the blatant harassment and discrimination that some women's bars impose upon men and even non-Lesbian-identified women who try to gain entrance? I won't argue the point of 'net.lesbians' vs. 'net.motss', if only because the example of 'net.women' and especially 'net.women.only' shows that voluntary segregation just cannot be achieved! Witness the preponderance of submissions by men in 'net.women.only'. My own feeling is that everyone has the right to form private associations for whatever purpose they like, but when that association takes the form of a public shop or tavern, private preferences HAVE to go out the window in abeyance to the public policy of equal access by all to all public facilities. I don't understand how some people can demonstrate before a bar which harasses minority groups, yet at the same time turn a blind eye towards the equally reprehensible actions of some women's bars. I find both very sad and unacceptable. One last comment, many news items have expired since you discovered the group (a bug in the expiration program keeps the roster a bit pock-marked as far what gets expired), so you probably haven't seen ALL the discussions. Also, the "kin selection" theory of homosexuality was beaten to death in 'net.singles' quite a while ago. I think we've exhausted that topic, so post your comments with that in mind. -- /Steve Dyer decvax!bbncca!sdyer sdyer@bbncca