arndt@lymph.DEC (07/31/84)
OK true believers, buckle up and let's look at the party line that the new 'liberated' GAY homosexuals want us to swallow. Terminological road map: In words Out words Gay Homosexual invert pervert orientation preference Recent Gay ideology claims that being Gay is somewhat like being black or left handed. Black pride, ergo Gay pride also. Gay is just something you ARE!!! That is the nub of the whole thing! If it is then they are right and it is small and mean spirited (not to mentioned bigoted) to require of them to be other than what they are. Who would blame you for something you can't help? But that is the very question I wish to raise! That is, to what extent are people responsible for who and what they are? Perhaps the 'Reverend' Derrick Bailey, in his classic 1955 study HOMOSEXUALITY AND THE WESTERN CHRISTIAN TRADITION (a precursor to Boswell) has said it best: "It is important to understand that the genuine (read Gay here) homosexual condition, or INVERSION, as it is often termed, is something for which the subject can in no way be held responsible; in itself it is morally neutral. It must be made quite clear that the genuine invert is not necessarily given to homosexual practices, and may exercise as careful a control over his or her physical impulses as the heterosexual; on the other hand, those who commit homosexual acts are by no means always genuine inverts. The PERVERT as the term implies, is not a true homosexual, but a heterosexual who engages in homosexual practices. Strickly speaking, the Bible and Christain tradition know nothing of homosexuality (Gayness); both are concerned solely with the commission of homosexual ACTS . . . ." Introduction, x,xi Get it? Invert - Pervert! Now to keep this short I just give this one example but I suggest you refer to Rueda's book, THE HOMOSEXUAL NETWORK: PRIVATE LIVES AND PUBLIC POLICY,'82 especially chapter three, Ideology of the Homosexual Movement, p.75ff. They're just another minority doin' what comes naturally. That's why they hate it when the bisexuals show up at their parades! But is there really such a thing as a "genuine invert"? Or is this just an ideological concept used to push the homosexual program? (See Rueda chapter five, Goals of the Homosexual Movement, p.197ff.) I think that it is far from certain that "genuine inverts" exist. For example: See HOMOSEXUALITY IN PERSPECTIVE, Masters and Johnson, '79, chapter nine, Incidence and Comparison of Fantasy Patterns, p.174ff. After giving several careful caveats about drawing too much out of the data the authors nevertheless outline the fantasy patterns of heterosexual and homosexual partners during lovemaking. Guess what? "Of particular interest was the high incidence of cross-preference fantasies in the homosexual study population. This was the third most frequently described fantasy among homosexual men."p.179. Not to leave the girls alone, "Cross-preference fantasies involving male partners and generally resulting in intercourse were reported third in frequency by the homnosexual women." p.180. At the very least this would seem to weaken the "not by choice", "I'm an invert mom", and "It's my orientation" line of thinking. How about it Dyer, ever have dirty thoughts about women while you're bumpin' buddy's head? Any others care to step forward? Sounds a lot to me like Masters and Johnson didn't really have any "genuine inverts" or modern Gays in the lab after all, but only some sly perverts in inverts clothing (or out of it, whatever). They wind up their book with a bang (sorry) to the effect that we all "get off" (as Sophie would say) the same way physically _ homo and hetero. Surprise, surprise! I can't wait for their study on bowel movements. "We are genetically determined to be male or female and, in addition, are given the ability to function sexually as men or women by the physical capacities of erection and lubrication and the inherent facility for orgasmic attainment. These capacities function in identical ways, whether we are interacting heterosexually or homosexually." p.404-405. I might add we all know no partner in necessary, (mess cooking in the Navy we used to call them steam table hard ons), or a partner other than a fellow human, but I digress. See page 405ff, Hormones and Homosexuality, for a discussion of the attempt to identify biologic factors important in the genesis of homosexuality. Did mommy make you what you are because she had dirty thoughts while you were kicking around in her womb and raised her hormone level and yours too? M and J (what are their hobbies?) quote Kolodny, et al, "There is no suggestion that endocrine abnormalities will be found in the great majority of homosexuals . . . In fact there must be speculation that the depressed testosterone levels could be the secondary result of a . . . depressive reaction relayed through the hypothalamus from higher cortical centers." p.410. "Following this study, (quoted above) a large number of additional reports have appeared with considerable disagreement in results."p410. "Finally, in view of the current (1979) lack of secure information in this field, we must maintain an intellectually open stance acknowledging that in at least in some instances - though clearly not in most cases - hormonal predispositions may (or may not) interact with social and environmental factors to lead toward a homosexual orientation."p.411 For a more recent statement see the July 14,'84 Science News, p23. They're screwing around with the rats again. Two guys from California (where else) have transplanted rats brains (parts thereof) and seen sexual behavior change. But as the article asks, is it cause or effect? In any case the same region in the rat brain, the sexually dimorphic nuclei of the medial preoptic area (naughty bits controller), has yet to be found in humans. They don't know why the rats changed yet, maybe they were just pissed off. So where do we stand gang? Is there any responsibity for sexual behavior? Heterosexual? Homosexual? Is "Gayspeak" right and there is a difference between inverts and perverts? Then how many "genuine inverts" can there be out there? Do you realize how DULL this net was before I put in my 2 cents? I'm reading up on Bailey and Boswell in preparation for a posting, "Boswell pulls a boner." Keep chargin' Ken Arndt