brower@fortune.UUCP (Richard Brower) (09/12/84)
Hey folks,
Let us not allow the Arndt's of the world to drive us
away from a forum that is ours! Do not back down into the closet!
It is true that Arndt is a discussting pig, but most of us gays have
to live with those sorts every day. There are currently large
contingents of "Christians" on Polk Street and on Castro Street, and
probabally at many other gay gathering places the country over, and
they are not there to join the festivities. But the way to deal with
them is either by active fight or by ignoring them... not by running
back to our closets.
Enough of that.
What are the feelings of other gay netters on our own minorities. I'm
actually interested in the coments of other gays, but will listen to
anyone who wishes to comment on the subject. I consider the gay
minorities to be;
drag queens
leather/motorcycle crowd
interracial couples
Sisters of PI (and other simular groups if there are any)
gay Christians
gay Catholics (really, Dignity is a separate crowd, I think)
gay Jews
chickenhawks/queen
(I hope that I haven't missed someone who will be hurts by the fact
that I missed them. If you feel slighted, flame at me and I will make
a special effort to add you to the list.)
Let us get some gays talking to each other, and at least the "Arndt's"
won't take up such a large percentage of this group.
Gay power through politics, now!
Richard Brower Fortune Systems
{ihnp4,ucbvax!amd,hpda,sri-unix,harpo}!fortune!browersunny@sun.uucp (Sunny Kirsten) (09/12/84)
A request for definition of terms: >What are the feelings of other gay netters on our own minorities. I'm >actually interested in the coments of other gays, but will listen to >anyone who wishes to comment on the subject. I consider the gay >minorities to be; ... >Sisters of PI (and other similar groups if there are any) >chickenhawks/queen >drag queens ... >Richard Brower Fortune Systems >{ihnp4,ucbvax!amd,hpda,sri-unix,harpo}!fortune!brower Excuse, please, but not being into the gay scene I'm having difficulty understanding some of the terms Richard used; can anyone define these, as long as people are giving their opinions on the groups? The distinctions based on religion and race were obvious, and would seem to be irrelevant subcategories of the major category "gay"? Have I missed something? Why is e.g. religion a grouping factor within sex? Why aren't the groups divided on sexual factors within gay rather than.... who cares...why bother. -- {ucbvax|decvax|ihnp4}!sun!sunny (Sunny Kirsten of Sun Microsystems)
brower@fortune.UUCP (Richard Brower) (09/13/84)
>>From amd!decwrl!sunny Wed Sep 12 02:39:22 1984 >>> my original article >>A request for definition of terms: >>>Sisters of PI (and other similar groups if there are any) This refers to the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, a group of gay male pagan nuns. They ran an exorcism on Jerry Falwell when he held his "pro-family" conference in San Francisco just before the Democratic Convention. They dress in rather fanciful versions of habits, and have stirred up a considerable amount of controversy by what some consider their irreverence to the Catholic Church. >>>chickenhawks/queen Gay males who are typified by chasing males much younger than themselves, say under age 21 (or 18 depending on who you ask). >>>drag queens Men who dress in women's clothing. >>The distinctions based on religion and race were obvious, and would >>seem to be irrelevant subcategories of the major category "gay"? Have >>I missed something? Why is e.g. religion a grouping factor within >>sex? Why aren't the groups divided on sexual factors within gay rather >>than.... who cares...why bother. Many Christians claim the gays cannot possiblity BE Christians at all, and some gay people seem to agree. That is the only reason that I included these catagories. Richard Brower Fortune Systems {ihnp4,ucbvax!amd,hpda,sri-unix,harpo}!fortune!brower