rrizzo@bbncca.ARPA (Ron Rizzo) (07/06/84)
Most of the information about gay life & lib (or whatever it should be called) is about Europe & North America, with a little about Latin Ame- rica (Mexico & Brazil, plus official persecution in Cuba), and almost nothing (that I'm aware of) about the rest of the world. I've read essays on mainland China (in CHRISTOPHER STREET) and the Soviet Union (in the book THE CHRISTOPHER STREET READER). Have any of you come across information on gay life (or the lack of it) in other Asian, African, Middle East or Latin countries? Cheers, Ron Rizzo
riddle@ut-sally.UUCP (Prentiss Riddle) (07/07/84)
A very sketchy piece of third-hand information that perhaps someone
else can elaborate on:
When I spent a summer in Mexico a couple of years back, I was told that
there was a large and relatively open gay scene in Mexico City. I
gathered that it was rather heavily influenced by the North American
variety, centered in bars. The people who told me about it wouldn't
have ordinarily had much sympathy for "maricones," but the cops had
recently come down on the scene so brutally as to make people side with
the gays. The official policy toward homosexual activities had a
particularly nasty twist to it: gays could gather in their clubs and
even dance together so long as there was no physical contact; the cops
would therefore make sport of showing up in a bar to ruin everybody's
evening by waiting for the patrons to make the first move. When they
did, out would come the billy clubs and the handcuffs. If I remember
correctly, the gays responded with some sizable demonstrations which
people at least feared might turn violent.
--- Prentiss Riddle ("Aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada.")
--- {ihnp4,harvard,seismo,gatech,ctvax}!ut-sally!riddlecharles@utastro.UUCP (Charles Sandel) (07/14/84)
More second-hand info:
I have a friend who spent his Christmas vacation in Mexico
City. He apparently had no troubles with police or in bars or baths.
In fact, his experience was that the baths were very, um, "adventurous".
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at&t: (512) 471-4461 x439gtaylor@lasspvax.UUCP (Greg Taylor) (05/10/85)
I guess that there was some coverage on NPR last week about a big conference
on AIDS held either here or France. Lotsa big party discussions on it, anyway.
Big questions, lotsa opinions (gathered here), little light. That's why we
ask here. As of the last version of this discussion (I'm removing the semiotics
ravings that followed them main questions. Hope that's alright), uninformed
minds want to know....
You can contract AIDS (HLTV-III *isn't* the same thing...I know. What is the
current view of it's relationship to AIDS) by a) sexual contact with *someone
who's got it, and got it from a sexual episode contact with a partner of either sex who got it from a sexual contact of their own, or one of the things
listed below) b)a blood tranfusion-you are notably at risk if you are the
sort of hemophiliac who requires unfiltered (uncentrifuged?) blood to preserve
some kind of clotting factor c)an intravenous drug user who shares needles with
one of the people listed above (or another "c". Yow! this is recursive)
d)some other form of contact that allows for serum-vectoring of the infective
agent (an immunologist at the last party....).
The little clause in a) suggests some bias, I know. I'll rephrase James'
soapboxing here: That a singly-bonded relationship that is mutually faithful
-whatever the affectational orientation- is not at risk.
Now. What else did the CDC people come up with? Is the above right? Can we
convince Marty to go back to donating blood to the Red Cross instead of
worrying he'll get AIDS?
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