on@hpda.UUCP (Owen Rowley) (05/25/85)
***Replace this line with your Guilt,and then get rid of it.******* I think that all this disscussion about what CAUSES us to be the way we are is just so much noise!!! Perhaps its better to just accept the fact that some of us (ie humanity) are bold enough to get beyond cultural conditioning and act on our inner urges.I suspect that there is something in Western culture that has gone far wide of normal biologicaly (ie hormonal) controlled behavior and caused serious emotional damage which has resulted in mass insanity,and a cultural neuroses that threatens to destroy us all. As Children we play together ,we touch,we explore each others bodys,we are unashamed.At puberty we begin to give in to social pressure to stop this kind of activity and begin acting like adults....and adults dont do that ....at least not with members of their own sex...Boys learn to become aggresive sexual animals,they quickly learnthat to be the object of another mans sexual desire is to be weak, and dominated, like a woman.(I don't know what happens to girls I wasn't paying attention to them).So we grow up to be men who are walled in by this social bull crap ,we armour ourselves and seperate ourselves, and the only authorised contact we have with each other usually revolves around some kind of sporting activity that is culturally acceptable.The traditional Mans man, the sporting man has built a niche in which he can have his buddys and his physical contact he can share the comraderie that men are capable of without contradicting the moral precepts of western society, all he has to do is make sure that his contact does not become sexual (at least not in public ..eh guys) .So they get a wife , and hang out with the boys, whether its the corner bar, the posh club ,or the Military they're all the same. I am constantly amazed at the puportedly straight men who get around to admitting to me that they like to get sexual with other men and are turned on by men too!! they 're not fags mind you just open minded...right...When I was in school they were still teaching us that homosexuality did not exist in the animal kingdom outside of human beings ,thereby asserting that homosexual behavior was some kind of abberation peculiar to the human spirit.But now I find that some scientists have taken a look at the animal kingdom to verify these claims and they are just simply not true!!same sex play and sexual activity occurs regularly and commonly throughout the animal kingdom.!!! The lie that was previously taught as truth never had any real facts to back it up, it was taught because the forces of moral decency said it was true..So how many other facts about homosexuality and other "perversions" and immoral acts are based on the same twisted logic??I wondrer about the currently accepted 10% figure that is often thrown around for the percentage of homosexual men??. hell Kinsey repoted that over 33% of the men he interviewed admitted to some level of homosexual contact ...and that was during the 50's...certainly a period not know for openness and non conformity....If we could get absolute honesty ,and asked men if they were occasionally turned on by another man,regardless of whether they would do anything about it, how many do you think would answer in the positive??/ I'm not sure but I bet it wouldn't be a lousy ten percent! .... In any case the upshot of my personal feelings on this matter is that I have come to the conclusion that I am Perfectly Normal, and that normalcy for me is living in a world wherein everything that occurs is appropriate. and that it is perfectly normal and appropriate for me to love men,and be sexual with them.I feel truley fortunate to be in a relationship with another man that loves me and have found a level of closeness with him that surpasses any I have ever experienced before.Partnership is something that is a reality in my life now, and not just a vague goal to strive after. I hope that ther will be some comment on this posting and I certainly welcome other opinions on these subljects,pro and con. Lux .... on (Owen Rowley) {ucbvax,hplabs}!hpda!on