mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) (05/23/85)
A couple of years ago, John Quaterman (?) posted a paper on notable
computer networks, which helped people to address mail to various
networks via gateways. Since that time, many things have changed
(especially in Europe, I think). There are many people with access
to one or another network to whom I would like to send E-mail, but I
don't even know what these networks might be, let alone how they
might be addressed from uucp or arpanet (and arpanet isn't supposed
to be used as an intermediate pathway, anyway).
If anyone has compiled information about the various nets and how
to send mail from one to another, especially across the Atlantic,
it would probably be of quite general interest. Even isolated
pieces of information (e.g. how to get between uucp and bitnet or
csnet) would be handy.
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Martin Taylor
{allegra,linus,ihnp4,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt
{uw-beaver,qucis,watmath}!utcsri!dciem!mmtjsq@im4u.UUCP (05/28/85)
In article <1557@dciem.UUCP> mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) writes: >A couple of years ago, John Quaterman (?) Close, but not quite. See above. >posted a paper on notable computer networks, which helped people >to address mail to various networks via gateways. Since that time, >many things have changed (especially in Europe, I think). Actually, it was explicitly limited to North America, with a few exceptions. It was also not intended to be a cookbook on how to get from one network to another, because such information tends to change too quickly, and the syntax varies greatly depending on where you are, especially if you're only on UUCP and don't have routing software. The idea was more to say what all those networks out there are, and give some idea of how to get to them. >There are many people with access to one or another network >to whom I would like to send E-mail, but I don't even know what >these networks might be, let alone how they might be addressed >from uucp or arpanet (and arpanet isn't supposed to be used >as an intermediate pathway, anyway). MILNET is mostly the part of the ARPA Internet that goes to Europe. While ARPANET access restrictions appear to be looser after the ARPANET/MILNET split, MILNET restrictions might be tighter. UUCP and CSNET go to Europe. The European part of BITNET, called EARN, is, as far as addressing, supposed to appear as part of one big network, as is NETNORTH in Canada. I think JANET in Great Britain is mostly newer than my paper. You can get to it through UUCP. >If anyone has compiled information about the various nets and how >to send mail from one to another, especially across the Atlantic, >it would probably be of quite general interest. Even isolated >pieces of information (e.g. how to get between uucp and bitnet or >csnet) would be handy. The ARPANET/CSNET/BITNET gateway is now wiscvm, no longer Berkeley. I'm not sure what the BITNET/UUCP gateway is at the moment, though there are many machines which are on both CSNET and UUCP. Lots of people have posted bits and pieces of this sort of information, mostly in the info-nets mailing list (to get on it, send mail to INFO-NETS-REQUEST%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC.ARPA in the ARPA Internet, or equivalent address from elsewhere). I have seen no general survey newer than my own. The CSNET people put out some reasonable stuff, but it's mostly limited to CSNET and the ARPA Internet. However, I am currently working on an updated version of the Notable Computer Networks paper, which I will post once again, and which may also appear in a well-known journal. This time, I would like to include as much European information as possible, and I'd like to provide current gateway information where available. If anyone who has noticed inaccuracies in the former paper or who has new information would please mail such information or pointers to it to me, I would appreciate it. This version will not be built nearly as much out of quoted letters from people, but I will try to acknowledge people who provide major contributions. The occasion is the ARPA Internet domain naming system finally going into operation. It's similar but different from what was being proposed a year ago.