root@ozdaltx.UUCP (root) (07/04/86)
A protest rally is scheduled for Friday, July 4th at the Dallas (Tx) city hall at 9:30 pm concerning the recent supreme court decision in the case of Georgia vs Hardwick. This decision has the potential of being one of the most destructive is the loss of personal freedoms in the history of this great nation! If this decision is allowed to stand, it could easily set precidence and allow the curtailing and loss of _more_ personal freedoms. This decision effects EVERYONE, not just a chosen few who partake of a particular life-style. As it stands now, if you live in Georgia, and you and your mate enjoy making love in other than the conventional "missionary" position, YOU ARE CONSIDERED A CRIMINAL! And, the local authorities are now given the license to actually come into your home and arrest you both. Isn't it enough that the state and federal laws cover almost every aspect of our daily lives with out comming into our bedrooms as well? THIS MUST NOT BE TOLLERATED! Organize rallys and letter writing campaigns in your area. Standup and be heard. The voice of the people must prevale in this effort. See you in jail ;-) Scotty ...ihnp4!killer!ozdaltx!root DISCLAIMER: "This system is mine, so this really isn't necessary!"
ambar@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Jean Marie Diaz) (07/08/86)
In article <146@ozdaltx.UUCP> root@ozdaltx.UUCP (root) writes: >This decision effects EVERYONE, not just a chosen few who >partake of a particular life-style. As it stands now, if you >live in Georgia, and you and your mate enjoy making love in >other than the conventional "missionary" position, YOU ARE >CONSIDERED A CRIMINAL! And, the local authorities are now >given the license to actually come into your home and arrest >you both. This is not the only piece of flamage that I've seen on the net claiming that the Georgia sodomy law applies to both homo- and heterosexuals. However, I read an article in the Boston Globe which said that the law only applied to oral/genital contact BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE SAME SEX. Could someone please confirm this? If true, it seems that much of the hysteria coming from straights is highly exaggerated. -- AMBAR "I need something to change your mind...."
henry@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU (Henry Mensch) (07/09/86)
In article <2490@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> ambar@mit-eddie.UUCP (Jean Marie Diaz) writes: > >This is not the only piece of flamage that I've seen on the net >claiming that the Georgia sodomy law applies to both homo- and >heterosexuals. However, I read an article in the Boston Globe which >said that the law only applied to oral/genital contact BETWEEN MEMBERS >OF THE SAME SEX. The Georgia law applies to everyone without regard to sex or sexual orientation. The Supreme Court decision deals particularly with homosexuals; they chose not to consider similar acts among heterosexual couples now. See the editorial in today's (8 July '86) *Boston Globe* for more. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Henry Mensch | Technical Writer | MIT/Project Athena henry@athena.mit.edu ..!mit-eddie!mit-athena!henry
gordon@cae780.UUCP (07/09/86)
In article <2490@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> ambar@mit-eddie.UUCP (Jean Marie Diaz) writes: >This is not the only piece of flamage that I've seen on the net >claiming that the Georgia sodomy law applies to both homo- and >heterosexuals. However, I read an article in the Boston Globe which >said that the law only applied to oral/genital contact BETWEEN MEMBERS >OF THE SAME SEX. > >Could someone please confirm this? If true, it seems that much of the >hysteria coming from straights is highly exaggerated. Right. As long as it's just "them", and not "us", "we" have nothing to fear... Of course, all the Supreme Court did say is that there is no Constitutional Right to oral/genital or genital/anal contact. That's not too surprising either, is it? The implications may be greater than that, but the actual decision isn't more than that. FROM: Brian G. Gordon, CAE Systems Division of Tektronix, Inc. UUCP: tektronix!cae780!gordon {ihnp4, decvax!decwrl}!amdcad!cae780!gordon {hplabs, resonex, qubix, leadsv, decwrl}!cae780!gordon USNAIL: 5302 Betsy Ross Drive/#58137, Santa Clara, CA 95052-8137 AT&T: (408)748-4817 [direct] (408)727-1234 [switchboard]
valerie@net1.UCSD.EDU (Valerie Polichar) (07/10/86)
In article <2490@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> ambar@mit-eddie.UUCP (Jean Marie Diaz) writes: >...I read an article in the Boston Globe which >said that the law only applied to oral/genital contact BETWEEN MEMBERS >OF THE SAME SEX... >If true, it seems that much of the >hysteria coming from straights is highly exaggerated. > > AMBAR No, no! At least some straights are enraged because certain human rights are being infriged upon. Whether or not we may personally exercise those rights is moot; we still consider them equally discriminatory and awful! We believe these rights *should not be controlled by the state*. (Gee, I /hope/ I'm speaking for more than just me.) Valerie -- Valerie Polichar sdcsvax!net1!valerie net1!valerie@SDCSVAX.UCSD.EDU This is a fake signature. If it were a real signature, you would have fled, terror-striken, from your terminal.
nazgul@apollo.uucp (Kee Hinckley) (07/10/86)
In article <2490@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> ambar@mit-eddie.UUCP (Jean Marie Diaz) writes: > heterosexuals. However, I read an article in the Boston Globe which > said that the law only applied to oral/genital contact BETWEEN MEMBERS > OF THE SAME SEX. > > Could someone please confirm this? If true, it seems that much of the > hysteria coming from straights is highly exaggerated. The LAW applies to both. The COURT restricted its ruling to homosexuals and explictly left open the question whether a state can restrict heterosexual sodomy. Where they get off with such blatent discrimination I do not know. -kee -- Mail is welcome... ...{yale,uw-beaver,decvax!wanginst}!apollo!nazgul Apollo Computer, Chelmsford MA. (617) 256-6600 x7587 There's so many different worlds, so many different suns And we have just one world, but we live in different ones. Dire Straits - "Brothers in Arms"
pete@valid.UUCP (Pete Zakel) (07/10/86)
> In article <146@ozdaltx.UUCP> root@ozdaltx.UUCP (root) writes: > >This decision effects EVERYONE, not just a chosen few who > >partake of a particular life-style. As it stands now, if you > >live in Georgia, and you and your mate enjoy making love in > >other than the conventional "missionary" position, YOU ARE > >CONSIDERED A CRIMINAL! And, the local authorities are now > >given the license to actually come into your home and arrest > >you both. > > This is not the only piece of flamage that I've seen on the net > claiming that the Georgia sodomy law applies to both homo- and > heterosexuals. However, I read an article in the Boston Globe which > said that the law only applied to oral/genital contact BETWEEN MEMBERS > OF THE SAME SEX. > > Could someone please confirm this? If true, it seems that much of the > hysteria coming from straights is highly exaggerated. > -- > > AMBAR The law as written can be applied to hetero- OR homo-sexuals. The Georgia DA stated that the law would only be applied to homosexuals. The Supreme Court only said the law was constitutional as applies to homosexuals. The majority opinion specifically stated that they were not commenting on the laws constitutionality as applies to heterosexuals. So . . . what? Since the law is on the books, if Georgia and the Supreme Court change their opinion in the future the law COULD be applied to hetero-sexuals. And even if the law only applies to homo-sexuals IT IS STILL A DANGEROUS LAW! Especially because the law can be used to hassle a group of otherwise law-abiding Americans based on their sexual orientation. If homosexuals can't have oral or anal intercourse, WHAT'S LEFT? -- -Pete Zakel (..!{hplabs,amd,pyramid,ihnp4}!pesnta!valid!pete)
davidsen@steinmetz.UUCP (Davidsen) (08/04/86)
Perhaps now that states have the right to control what we do in the bedroom (or wherever your favorite recreational area may be) we may see notes in job postings indicating what sodemy laws are in effect. I can see it all now: "East Armpit has a theater which shows films both Friday and Saturday night, has professional wrestling every month live, and has a good book rack at the drugstore for the literary types. There are no state, county, or local sodemy laws. Equal opportunity employes m/f/h/q/p/t" Or in other parts of the country laws prohibiting unmarried persons from sharing lodging might be passed, or laws on what positions may be used, limiting not only what touches what, but how. "You got a bad back, kid? Tough! We saw her on top, that's a felony in this town, pervert!" With the middle of the country passing sodomy and pornography laws, and the coasts (NY, CA, etc) passing laws against homosexual persecution and discrimination, the next civil war may be the middle against the coasts. I hope I'm kidding, but the liberals are willing to let people practice chastity, while the fundamentalists (at least the most visible kind) seem to justify violence because it's "God's will". Where else do arsonists who burn planned parenthood offices (not clinics, offices) regard themselves as the "good guys". If you consider that Lebanon was a modern country with a stable economy only 30 years ago, can someone please convince me that issues of religion can't tear apart a modern country? I think that with the new Supreme Court this is not going to be the land of the free anymore, I hope I'm wrong. -- -bill davidsen ihnp4!seismo!rochester!steinmetz!--\ \ unirot ------------->---> crdos1!davidsen chinet ------/ sixhub ---------------------/ (davidsen@ge-crd.ARPA) "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward"