[net.news.adm] creating newsgroups missing from your system

presley@mhuxj.UUCP (01/24/84)

I'd like to suggest the following if you're a netnews administrator and find
that you need to create a newsgroup on your system.  Instead of posting a
newgroup message which travels all over the net, post it to something like
local.msg.ctl, which keeps it within your own sphere of influence.  Whenever
I need to create a newsgroup which seems to be missing from my systems, I do
something similar to: 

  inews -t newgroup net.jisatsu -n local.msg.ctl </dev/null

Since my sys files don't forward local.* outside of mhux[adhijlmrtv] and
alux[epz], the redundant newgroup (to most other sites) doesn't get out.  I
think a mechanism like this would help prevent the fiasco caused by the
cygnet site this weekend.  Those invalid groups would have been created only
on cygnet and Adam wouldn't have had to post those rmgroup messages. 
-- 

Joe Presley (mhuxj!presley, ihnp4!j.presley)

davel@dciem.UUCP (Dave Legg) (01/27/84)

I would suggest a simpler way, first create the appropiate directory with
the correct permissions.  The correct permissions are easy to determine,
just examine an already active directory.  Then edit the active file and
add the new name with a sequence number of 00000, as along as inews is
quiet, there is no danger as far as I can see, and there is definately
no danger of the addition being propagated across the net.  Personally
I keep a watch on the group "junk" to make sure we are not missing an 
active group and use the above procedure if I find one.
-- 
Dave Legg, DCIEM, Toronto, Ont. Canada.
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