[net.news.adm] 2400 baud backbone links

mark@cbosgd.UUCP (Mark Horton) (05/05/84)

The volume of news is getting pretty high, and phone bills are starting
to soar.  I recall there was some interest expressed a while back about
using 2400 baud modems to cut the cost in half, but there wasn't enough
serious interest.  Now with volume so high, it may well be worthwhile.

How would the backbone sites feel about each buying one 2400 baud
modem (presumably with auto-answer/auto-dial capabilities) and using
that for (at least) their news backbone links.  I'm guessing such a
modem would cost around $2000, but this figure may be high.  I haven't
looked into what's available.

Selection of which modem is important.  From what I can see, there hasn't
been any standard emerging, and I don't see any signs of one.  So in
effect we will be setting a standard by choosing one.  We might even be
able to go to 4800 baud if there is a wonderful modem available.  We
should make the choice carefully.

	Mark Horton

henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) (05/08/84)

I know we're seriously interesting in getting a 2400-baud modem.  The
one we are looking at in particular is the Concord Data one.  The choice
is partly a matter of compatibility -- one of our news feeds, linus,
already has them -- and partly a matter of cost.  The Concord Data
modems are not noticeably more expensive than triple modems (although
they lack 300 baud and R-V 1200 protocol), whereas the R-V quadruple
modems are outlandishly expensive and reportedly hard to get delivery
on.  We need one more good modem to get rid of our last 300-only line,
and the odds are very good that it's going to be from Concord Data.

(For people who want info...  The relevant model is the Concord Data
224 Autodial.  It speaks 2400 and 212.  The autodialer looks fairly
good.  The US price is $1195, rather lower than Mark thought.  Concord
Data Systems, 303 Bear Hill Road, Waltham, Mass. 02154 (617)890-1394.)
-- 
				Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
				{allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henry

wcs@homxa.UUCP (Bill Stewart HO 4K-437 x0705) (05/10/84)

Using 2400 baud modems instead of 1200 baud would help, but things
could also be improved if we make better use of high-speed
dedicated networks. The Bell Labs Interlocation Computing
Network has high-speed links between NJ, Chicago, Denver,
North Carolina, Columbus, and a few other  places.  If these could
be used more effectively it would probably cut down total network
cost, without too much impact on the network occupancy.

		Bill Stewart, AT&T Bell Labs
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This is of course my personal opinion, and does not imply any
commitment of resources on the part of AT&T Bell Labs, or the Holmdel
Comp. Center, (or even myself, for that matter.)

rpw3@fortune.UUCP (05/12/84)

#R:cbosgd:-134500:fortune:32200002:000:424
fortune!rpw3    May 12 04:03:00 1984

Has anyone modified UUCP to work with (ugh, shudder) half-duplex modems?

Before you barf, please note that 9600 baud DIAL-UP modems (synchronous
only, unfortunately) are now available fairly cheaply (see net.dcom).

Now THAT could help a bit, no?

Rob Warnock

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