[net.news.adm] More on the new distributions

mark@cbosgd.UUCP (Mark Horton) (07/26/86)

I've gotten some questions about the procedure, so I'm posting some
followups to clarify a few points.

The test messages were posted to newsgroup mod.announce with distribution
comp.  This may seem a little strange, since comp isn't a distribution,
it's a top level newsgroup class.  The explanation is that, in the current
implementation, newsgroup classes and distributions are somewhat blurred.
"net" is both, for example.  We are moving toward separating them, so that
"comp" will be a class and "world", for example, a distribution.  But they
are not currently separate.  This means you have to list all the classes
AND all the distributions in the second field of each sys file line.

There are currently no newsgroups in the comp class.  We haven't sent
out any newgroups for them yet, because we want to make sure that comp
will get most places first.  So to test it, we used comp as a distribution
instead of a newsgroup.  The current code makes them interchangable, so
it does work.

So what do you do if you didn't get the comp distribution version of
the message?  For starters, make sure you update your sys file, although
your sys file being out of date won't prevent you from receiving that
test message, it will just keep people downstream from you from getting it.
If you didn't get it, look at your news to see what path you get most of
your news from.  (You can grep any newsgroup directory's * for "Path",
for example.)  Then start going upstream - talk to your immediate neighbor's
SA, then their upstream neighbor's SA, etc.  Find out if they got the
test message, and if they've updated their sys file.  Keep going until
you find somebody who got the message who has updated their sys file;
it's possible for more than one unupdated site to exist between you
and the backbone.

If you don't know who the contact person for that site is, look in the
UUCP map (mod.map) for the listed contact person.  You can also try
mailing to site!postmaster, or site!usenet, or site!root.  Or grep your
/usr/lib/news/history file for that site, and look up any messages it
finds; this will give you the address of some active user on that site.

And above all, read net.news.adm.  Future test messages won't be posted
to mod.announce, they'll be posted here.  (I don't want to give anyone
a reason to unsubscribe from mod.announce.)  I'll post them in pairs,
one with a new class in the Distribution field, one without a Distribution.
I'm going to post a test right after this one, to distribution "news".
If you get this message and not the test message, you should try to determine
why.

	Mark Horton