mlandau@Diamond.BBN.COM (Matt Landau) (10/05/86)
We've recently seen two different rmgroup control messages for talk.religion. Are these mistakes, or has talk.religion been renamed (or deleted entirely)? So far, I've ignored these rmgroups assuming that talk.religion is indeed supposed to be created under the renaming scheme. Any backbone admins care to clarify what's going on? -- Matt Landau BBN Laboratories, Inc. mlandau@diamond.bbn.com 10 Moulton Street, Cambridge MA 02238 ...seismo!diamond.bbn.com!mlandau (617) 497-2429
fair@ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU (Erik E. Fair) (10/05/86)
The word I have from the backbone cabal is that talk.religion was a mistake; the general group for that category is "talk.religion.misc". Erik E. Fair ucbvax!fair fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu
ben@catnip.UUCP (Bennett Broder) (10/09/86)
In article <1198@Diamond.BBN.COM> mlandau@Diamond.BBN.COM (Matt Landau) writes: >We've recently seen two different rmgroup control messages for >talk.religion. Are these mistakes, or has talk.religion been >renamed (or deleted entirely)? So far, I've ignored these rmgroups >assuming that talk.religion is indeed supposed to be created under >the renaming scheme. Any backbone admins care to clarify what's >going on? As a couple of other responses have already pointed out, net.religion was renamed to talk.religion.misc, not talk.religion. -However- A word of caution to people using the rmgroup script supplied with 2.10.3 (and possibly earlier versions) to kill talk.religion: rmgroup will also wipe out talk.religion.misc. It won't harm the entries in the newsgroups or active file, but the spool directory and all the articles will go. Although the spool directory will be recreated next time an article is posted, the articles previously posted to talk.religion.misc will be gone forever. Perhaps rmgroup should be made a little smarter? -- Ben Broder {ihnp4,decvax} !hjuxa!catnip!ben {houxm,topaz}/
dv@well.UUCP (David W. Vezie) (10/09/86)
In article <16038@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> fair@ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU (Erik E. Fair) writes: >The word I have from the backbone cabal is that talk.religion was a mistake; >the general group for that category is "talk.religion.misc". > > Erik E. Fair ucbvax!fair fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu But talk.religion.misc is a subgroup of talk.religion, so how can talk.religion.misc exist without talk.religion (at least with my current news software (2.10.3 4.3bsd beta release 6/6/86))? Whenever they create talk.religion.misc, then remove talk.religion, they automatically remove talk.religion.misc. I've also noticed a similar problem in the last checkgroups message; net.announce is gone, but net.announce.arpa-internet still exists. Is this an oversight? --- David W. Vezie {dual|hplabs}!well!dv - Whole Earth 'Lectronics Link, Sausalito, CA (4 lines, 114 chars)
rick@seismo.CSS.GOV (Rick Adams) (10/11/86)
This is the 2.11 rmgroup.sh. It is smart enough to remote talk.religion without removing talk.religion.subgroups ---rick : '@(#)rmgroup.sh 1.6 9/19/86' for group do echo "Removing newsgroup $group" qgrp="`echo $group | sed 's/\./\\\./g'`" if grep -s "^$qgrp " LIBDIR/active then cat << E_O_F >/tmp/$$ /^$qgrp[ ]/d w q E_O_F ed - LIBDIR/active < /tmp/$$ ed - LIBDIR/newsgroups < /tmp/$$ dir=SPOOLDIR/"`echo $group | sed 's/\./\//g'`" if [ -d $dir ] then rm $dir/* rmdir $dir else echo "$0: $dir: no spool directory" 2>&1 fi else echo "$0: $group: no such newsgroup" 2>&1 fi done rm -f /tmp/$$ exit 0