[net.music] "The Dreaming" & What makes music worthwhile?

nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) (02/01/85)

>	[Gregbo(zo)] So, Dougie, is Kate Bush's "The Dreaming" the best
>	album ever made because YOU say so, or because it really is?

Everything is subjective.  There's no such thing as reality.

>	[Gregbo] If you decide to retract your statement and say "it's
>	the best album I ever heard" maybe I'll buy it.

>	[Peg Streff] ... and Doug, don't you feel that limiting the
>	world to one "best" album made is sad??

Hey, I said in my article that there may be albums as good as "The
Dreaming" that I have never heard, just that there isn't any better.
(Actually "Sgt.  Pepper's" and Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here" may
also be perfect -- I'd have to think about it.) You can't get better
than perfection.  There may be other perfect albums in the world.  Then
they too would classify as "The Best".

Besides Greggie, knowing your AM pop comercial tastes, you probably
wouldn't like it -- so don't buy it.

>	[Gregbo] Frankly, I'm tired of people saying "This is the best,
>	because *I* say it is".  Ever since I started reading net.music,
>	I've seen people over and over again claiming that what they like is
>	the only thing that is good, and that everything else is trash.
>	What pompous, elitist attitudes!

There is lot of music that I think is artistically worthwhile (Bach, Sex
Pistols, early Gong, etc.), but which I don't like.  So I certainly
don't fall into your category of pompous elitists.  On the other hand, I
think that music that has no artistic merit, that is created merely to
make someone a buck (Michael Jackson, Olivia Newton John, Hall and
Oates, Lionel Richie) has no merit and is nothing but trash.  Of course,
what gives something artistic merit is still subjective (so, I'm still
some sort of pompous elitist -- and proud!).

>	[Gregbo] Let's have a little music for music's sake, ok?

Yes!  And not for money's sake!

				-Doug Alan
				 mit-eddie!nessus
				 Nessus@MIT-MC

P.S.

"All this machinery making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
It's really just a question of your honesty
One likes to believe in the freedom of music
But glittering prizes and endless compromises
Shatter the illusion of integrity
	`For the words of the profits,
	 Are written on the studio wall,
	 Concert hall echoes with the sounds...
	 Of salesmen.'"

		-Ironic words by a group that sold out.