[net.cog-eng] Replies to Cognitive Science Teaching query

hestenes@sdics.UUCP (07/28/86)

Here is a edited version of the replies I received. ( 170 lines )
I'm editing out the names, but if you email to me I'll try to 
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Eric Hestenes
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1. ****************
region: ucsd
>  I'm an undergrad (senior) in Cog Sci at UCSD; 
2. ****************
region: berkley

>at u.c.berkeley, there is a cog sci program funded by the
>Arthur P. Sloan Foundation and run by about 12 professors
>from the departments of philosophy, computer science (ai),
>psychology, liguistics, and education.  about 22 grad 
>students (ra's) in the aforementioned departments are 
>involved with the program and work under these prof's.
>>> etc ...
>(there exists no cog sci major at berkeley, though i, an
>undergraduate, am considering creating my own major in
>the independent study program, and label it cogsci).

3. ****************
region: university of hawaii

>It seems that lots of people confuse Cognitive Science with
>Artificial Intelligence.  While CogSci and AI have valuable
>cross fertilization going on, I think that students (esp.,
>undergrads) should be made to understand that they are not
>the same discipline....todd

4. ****************

>the most interesting treatment of cognitive science
>i've heard lately were in Winograd's and Flores' 
>"understanding computers and cognition."  quite an
>interesting book, highly recommended.

>i'd describe myself as an avid reader of the cognitive
>science literature.  i would not quite call myself a
>student of it since i don't consider the possibility
>of contributing anytime soon.

5. *****************
region: mit/cornell

>I received a B.S. in Cognitive Science from M.I.T. in
>1984.  I am currently a grad student in psychology at
>Cornell.  I think that a cognitive science course should
>ideally include material from a variety of disciplines.

6. ****************** ( long !!! )
region: duke

>In response to your query, I hastily submit the following.  I hope that it 
>is of some help.  I am an undergraduate studying both Computer Science 
>and Philosophy.  I am looking at graduate computer science programs that 
>are at universities that also have strong philosophy programs.  UCSD's 
>cogsci program is a possibility, but its attraction is limited by a few 
>questions:

>1.  Are we perhaps early for cogsci as a field unto itself?
>2.  Should it be studied as a department with offerings from its 
>constituents, or as a program with a set of courses that its constituents 
>will recognize, flexibly, even if some are from one or more of the other 
>departments?
>3.  How do we manage the problem that cogsci can be thought of as the UNION 
>of its constituent fields, and not just the intersection?  (Of course, 
>some topics are much more relevant than others, but there seems to be 
>considerable leeway in designing a curriculum  --  many diff. objectives that 
>cogsci could have.)
>4.  Does it have a coherent set of notations, theories, etc., and consistent 
>methods and models?  From my experience with psychology, it seems that 
>there are many theories about related phenomena that are inconsistent.  
>What happens when we throw in the other fields?  Does it become much worse?  
>Do the fields force each other to recognize the theories of each other and 
>search for resolution? 
>5.  How large a role is systems theory going to have?  
>6.  What are the driving assumptions?  Hobbes' "by ratiocination I mean
>computation"?  What are the tenets or goals or common beliefs?  
>6.5  Will you let the philosophers play theoretical watchdog?
>7.  Individual departments and whole fields can develop personalities that 
>are not related to the subject matter, but which influence the way in which 
>the subjects are studied, and also what gets studied.  How are things turning 
>out in cogsci?  Also, how about the political aspects -- does, for instance, 
>psychpology have any significant kind of dominanace?  Questions like tat.
>8.  Will it be experimental?  Theoretical?  Will it have ITS OWN topics?


7. *********************
region: u of alberta, AB

>Howdy.  My institution (the University of Alberta) does not offer a program
>in Cognitive Science, but I've come as close as one can get to such a field
>here.  My major is philosophy and I've taken many courses in both psychology
>and computing science (and of course Philosophy of Mind) to get the background
>I need for graduate work in Cog. Sci.  I'm working this summer for ****
>********* on a program designed to convert English sentences into propositions
>in predicate calculus (a la Montague, Gazdar), and have a fair background in
>logic and linguistics as well.
  >I can't offer many suggestions on the teaching of "cognitive science" since
>the U of A has no such program; one must piece together the courses one
>requires from Phil., Psych., Ling., and Comp. Sci. (and to some extent, Neuro-
>Physiology).  Perhaps you could suggest at this conference that more
>universities and colleges offer specialized programs in such fields.  I
>understand that the University of Colorado has a good Cog. Sci. department
>(I attended a talk by **** ****** last year), but I have little information
>with regards to the reputations/facilities of other Universities.  If you
>could suggest some good graduate schools, your advice would be most welcome.
>

8. *********************
region: ucsd

>I am a cog. sci. undergrad. at U.C.S.D. (5th year) who will be
>(*hopefully*) attending graduate school for cog. sci. somewhere.

9. *********************
region: duke, nc state

>I am very interested in pursuing post-grauate study in
>'cognitive science'.  I.e. the study of brain function
>from a theoretical point of view, especially including
>expermintation and simulation on computers.

>Here in Raleigh NC, there are several good schools,
>Duke, UNC Chapel Hill, and my alma mater North Carolina
>State University.   they have varying degrees [sic] of quality
>in this area, but I am leaning towards taking a masters
>at State in Philosophy of Mind.

10. ***********************
region: u of chicago

>1. I am a cognitive science student.  Actually, I'm doing a tutorial studies
>program in neurobiology and cognitive science at the University of Chicago,
>and will graduate (B.A.) this spring.

>2. Problems?  Well, I suppose the fact that I had to transfer to Chicago in
>order to pursue the independent studying that I wanted was a problem, though
>not unique to cognitive science.  I *would* suggest that cog-scientists
>develop interdisciplinary programs such as are seen at UCSD, UMass, and a few
>other places (e.g., incorporating neural net study to attract comp-sci/AI
>students.

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region: suny

>The Graduate Group in Cognitive Science at SUNY Buffalo has been
>teaching an intro grad-level course in Cog. Sci. for several years.  It
>has been a team-taught course, with sections taught by faculty from
>Comp. Sci., Psych, Ling, Philosophy, and Communicative Disorders (i.e.,
>Speech/Hearing).  The last couple of times, we focused the course around
>our group's research project in building a computational model of a
>reader of narrative who is sensitive to deictic information.

>I will be at the Cog. Sci. meetings (though not at the workshop on
>teaching Cog Sci), and one of our grad students will be presenting a
>poster session on our research project.  I'd be glad to talk to anyone
>who is interested in our group there.

I have the name/address and phone of anyone who wishes to contact this
professor at SUNY/BUFFALO about Cognitive Science there.


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