[net.women.only] proposed "mail" newsgroup for feminists

jamcmullan@watmath.UUCP (Judy McMullan) (02/15/84)

It has been suggested, several times, that those of us who wish to be free
of the misogynists and the ignorant should form a mailing list to effect
a restricted posting newsgroup. Would anyone be interested in such a group?

I would volunteer to act as co-ordinator and repository for names.

If such a group was formed, I would simply propose that a list of those
interested in being in the group be distributed to all members of the
group and any member could mail to those on the list, at will.

If you are interested, please send me mail. Things to think about are:

1) Would you prefer that the group be moderated and that the moderator
   keep the mailing list?
2) Do we want women only on the list? (and how can we tell if someone
   is bogus??)
3) Do we want only feminists on the list? (I think we could spot those who are
   bogus pretty quickly but the ringer could have the name list by then and bug
   us all with stupid mail).
   My own answer to this one is YES because net.women and net.women.only
   already have all types. However, I would go along with group consensus.
   The formation of two groups is not out of the question.

I append ALL my optional mail addresses, for your convenience.

   --from the sssstickkky keyboard of J.A.M.
   ...!{allegra|bunker|clyde|csin|decvax|hcr|
        linus|sunybcs|syzygy|triton|utcsrgv|utzoo}!watmath!jamcmullan

saquigley@watmath.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) (02/16/84)

I know it sounds as though I am trying to be argumentative, but I would like
to get a few clarifications on these points:

> 1) Would you prefer that the group be moderated and that the moderator
>    keep the mailing list?

Is the group just a mailing list, i.e an mail alias for a bunch of people?
How do people who are not in it join? by asking the moderator?

> 2) Do we want women only on the list? (and how can we tell if someone
>    is bogus??)

I think it depends on what the topics discussed will be, if it is simply
feminism, then I think men should definitely participate.  What would be
the reasons for keeping the men out?

> 3) Do we want only feminists on the list? (I think we could spot those who are
>    bogus pretty quickly but the ringer could have the name list by then and bug
>    us all with stupid mail).

What is the definition of a feminist.  Is it something like the one I posted
some time ago, or is it completely different?


			Sophie Quigley
			watmath!saquigley

smann@ihu1g.UUCP (Sherry Mann) (02/16/84)

Judy,

In response to your call on the net for a mailing list:

Suggestions have come from people on the net that a mailing list
be created for people who have one (or more) of the following 
reasons:
 
1.  An interest in keeping men from participating

2.  An interest in a support group for women

3.  An interest in not having to defend one's views and
    experiences

4.  For women who hate men

5.  An interest in discussing feminism with people who
    have some intelligent background in the subject
    rather than having to constantly re-educate those
    who don't 

6.  Various other reasons


I have the most sympathy with reasons (2), (3), and (5) above,
and would be interested in a mailing list which embodied the
spirit of those items.  This does not mean however, that I am not
willing to listen to the opinions of those who disagree with me,
even if they do not have the background in feminism that I have.
There are others on the net who have more education in this area
than I, but I have some definite opinions that I would like heard
and want to extend that courtesy to others.  

To directly answer the points you bring up:

1.  What would moderation of the group mean?
    If it means censorship, no.
    If it means administrative handling of message, and would
    make the mailing list easier to use, fine.
    If it means pointing out to submitters when their submissions
    are not within the  boundaries decided upon for the list,
    probably ok.
   
    I am not familiar with mailing lists and how they work
    therefore, am unsure of the role of a moderator.

2.  I am open on the point of women only vs men/women mailing
&   list.  I am also open on the question of only feminists.
3.  I would prefer that the list be limited to people who are
    willing to respect others' views or experiences, but will
    go along with the majority on this one.

I am submitting this to net.women.only rather than replying to you
directly.

	Sherry Mann
	ihu1g!smann

saquigley@watmath.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) (02/17/84)

I agree with Sherry Mann.  (just casting my vote)

			Sophie Quigley
			watmath!saquigley

saquigley@watmath.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) (02/22/84)

Sherry, could you send me a better address than the two you have
available on the net (smann@ihu1g.UUCP and ihu1g!smann).
I've been trying to send you mail, but it keeps on being rejected
somewhere along the way.
Sophie.

watmath!saquigley  (hope mine's good enough)

ariels@orca.UUCP (Ariel Shattan) (02/24/84)

What Sherry said.

Just goes to show ....

If you wait long enough, someone will say what you have to say for
you, and much better than you ever could.

Ariel Shattan
..!tektronix!orca!ariels