[net.women.only] proposed 'mail' newsgroup for femini

mazur@inmet.UUCP (02/19/84)

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inmet!mazur    Feb 18 13:22:00 1984


***** inmet:net.women.only / watmath!jamcmullan / 10:48 am  Feb 15, 1984

>  1) Would you prefer that the group be moderated and that the moderator
>     keep the mailing list?

I'd like to see the group moderated.  One of the things I suggested to
Sophie in a letter is that we have a "moderator of the month(s)", so that
one person doesn't have to do it from now until whenever.

I think that if we do have a moderator, it would be *relatively* easy
for members to mail commments, articles, questions to the moderator and
then have the moderator mail a "newsletter" to all the people on the
group.  

The other advantage is that, if only the moderator has the mailing list,
it will be easier to keep the names from falling into "the wrong hands".
Although if anybody really wants to waste their time sending stupid mail,
they already have Sophie's, Judy's and my net addresses.  We'll find
out soon enough about it.

>  2) Do we want women only on the list? (and how can we tell if someone
>     

I vote yes, at least initially.  While there are several men who regularly
post to net.women whose inputs would be valuable, if we "allow the men
in", all we'll really have is net.women by mail.  If people (men and
women) won't let women.only be women only, then why don't we try and
keep this that way.

I'm not particularly happy with this, but I think it's worth a try.

If the majority want a "women-only" group, I think the best way to make
sure that a person is female is to require the office phone number and
call.  It's sad that we'd have to do this, but it would work.

3) Do we only want feminists in the group?

Well, I think that most of the women on the net are feminists to
some degree, especially those who are interested in this idea.  As
far as myself, on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being Phyllis Schlafly and
10 being Gloria Steinem, I'm probably a 7 or 8.  I'm not a "radical"
feminist, and I don't read Ms magazine although I do read Working
Woman.

We're going to have a tough enough time getting this started and
going without trying to screen the women who want to get in.  I think
that we'll find that most of the women getting involved will be feminists,
more or less.

Beth Mazur
{ima,harpo,esquire}!inmet!mazur

mazur@inmet.UUCP (02/22/84)

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inmet!mazur    Feb 20 22:31:00 1984

Judy McMullan has written telling me that the majority of people (men
and women) prefer that the group not be moderated, and that men and
women be included to discuss feminism.

I am perfectly willing to go along with the majority.  If this is the
case though, why don't we just use net.women.only to discuss feminism?
The group is certainly underused as it is.

holmes@dalcs.UUCP (Ray Holmes) (02/27/84)

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	Please excuse me for butting in, but I have been following the (at
least visible portion) of this discussion for a while and I have a few
comments.  The options considered seem to be:

	1) Restrict input and output -- a moderated mailing list.

	2) Restrict output only -- a non-moderated mailing list.
or
	3) No restrictions -- a newsgroup (i.e. net.women.only)

I would like to offer a fourth alternative:

	4) Restrict input only -- a moderated newsgroup.

This way everyone who wants to can read the group, but the nonsense
input gets filtered out.
					Ray

smann@ihu1g.UUCP (Sherry Mann) (02/28/84)

What a good idea Ray, (your fourth alternative - Restrict input only -
a moderated newsgroup).  I wish you had been around when net.women.only
(restricted input - women only) was first suggested. 
I hope you are a man, maybe with a man recommending such a newsgroup
there won't be so much static against it. :-) !
There are still complaints and sly remarks about net.women.only
restricting its input.

My feelings on the subject - let's leave things as they are,
I'm getting tired of the discussion and am convinced that no matter
what we want to do, what we discuss doing, what we actually do,
someone, somewhere is going to be aghast at the idea.
Its' a fact of life, might as well get used to it.

I'm going on vacation tomorrow, so this is my last word on the subject
for two weeks.

	Sherry Mann