[net.micro.6809] OS9

clay@sask.UUCP (Clay Cederstrand) (10/06/85)

As a long time FLEX user on a homebrew SS50C system I have always been
intrigued by OS9. I would be interested in finding out how to bring up
OS9 on homebrew system without having to rob the US mint in order to
finance it. I have never seen a "general purpose OS9", as exists with
FLEX, with all the necessary documentation to install machine specific
device drivers.

I would also be interested in knowing if anyone has successfully hacked
up the Radio Shack version to run on a SS50 system. It seems to me that
it would be a very inexpensive way to get OS9 up and running. The C compiler
that Radio Shack markets, which is presumably Microwares version, is also
considerably cheaper than the one marketed for OS9 level 1 on a GIMIX.
Has this version been altered to run ONLY on a color computer ?

Any hints, pointers, or information gratefully accepted.

Are there any FLEX users out there, there never seems to be any contributions
from anyone to the news group. Not that I am complaining mind you, its great
to see OS9 postings after months of no activity in the news group.


In the words of the immortal Linus......."Sidney or the bush"

dibble@rochester.UUCP (Peter C. Dibble) (10/07/85)

> I would also be interested in knowing if anyone has successfully hacked
> up the Radio Shack version to run on a SS50 system. It seems to me that
> it would be a very inexpensive way to get OS9 up and running. The C compiler
> that Radio Shack markets, which is presumably Microwares version, is also
> considerably cheaper than the one marketed for OS9 level 1 on a GIMIX.
> Has this version been altered to run ONLY on a color computer ?

I saw an ad in 68 Micro Journal a few months ago for a system with the
modules to fit Radio  Shack OS-9 to it.  The modules (I/O support and
clock driver probably) plus OS-9 from Radio Shack cost less than any
normal OS-9 price I've seen.  The problem is getting started.  Without
an OS-9 system it is hard to write and debug drivers, but you don't
have a working system until you are done.

Radio Shack uses a different physical disk format from standard OS-9.
As far as I know that and device drivers/descriptors (which almost
always differ between systems) are the only special things about
the CoCo's OS-9.

Peter  Dibble

jimomura@lsuc.UUCP (Jim Omura) (10/07/85)

     I don't know of a re-port of the CoCo OS-9 to an SS-50 system
but Sardis Technologies, 2261 E. 11th Ave. Vancouver, B.C.,
Canada, V5N 1Z7 (604) 255-4485 (whew!) has a "conversion package"
to use the CoCo OS-9 on their small 6809 (2 Eurocard -- non-VME)
system.  The Conversion package is $49.00 (package deals with
the boards).  You still have to buy the Shack's OS-9 (it was on
sale a month or 2 ago for $70.00 Cdn).

     You can do your own port if you feel like it.  There have
been postings on the Portapack if you need it.  It's mainly a
question of writing the drives (or matching the harware?--possible).
There're also some people who have ported it to the Dragon computer
(much easier since it's mainly the same chipset except for a
serial chip based RS-232).

                                   Cheers! -- Jim O.

(Forgot to say:  Nothing special about CoCo version except 32 column
output orientation for most of the modules.)

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steve@wlbr.UUCP (Steve Childress) (10/08/85)

In article <288@sask.UUCP>, clay@sask.UUCP (Clay Cederstrand) writes:
> As a long time FLEX user on a homebrew SS50C system I have always been
> intrigued by OS9. I would be interested in finding out how to bring up
> OS9 on homebrew system without having to rob the US mint in order to
> finance it. I have never seen a "general purpose OS9", as exists with
> FLEX, with all the necessary documentation to install machine specific
> device drivers.
> 
> Any hints, pointers, or information gratefully accepted.
> 

1. You can (but not legally) run the CoCo OS9 application progs on an
    SS50 machine. The price differences seem to be a marketing issue.

2. I ran FLEX-9 in 1979-81 but abandoned it for OS9. When I run FLEX now,
    it reminds me of CP/M-80 circa 1977.

3. On getting OS9 up on your homebrew: I did this, sort of. Microware
   supplied an OS9 version which expected the floppy disk controller to
   be the ancient SWTPC DC-3 which is merely a WD-1771 chip hung on
   a particular SS-30 card slot. That version also expected a MC6850
   UART in SS-30 slot 0. The boot code is in EPROM which took up precious
   memory space.

   With this synergy, I was able to boot the standard OS9. From there,
   I was able to reconfigure it for my machine's real-time-clock interrupt,
   non-standard printer port, etc.

   If your machine is vastly different than any standard configuration
   offered by Microware, you should be able to use a CoCo to write disk
   and console drivers, build a boot disk, and write your own disk boot.
   That's similar to what I did to achieve an APPLE II OS9, except the
   development machine was an SS50 machine. 

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