garys@bunkerb.UUCP (Gary Samuelson) (09/02/83)
Here's a topic that I would like to see discussed in net.legal: Patent agreements of the type generally signed on the first day of employment. I am now working for my third employer, and have been asked each time to sign two agreements upon starting work. One promises that I will not disclose proprietary information of other companies to my new company, nor disclose any of my new company's proprietary information to other companies, and the other promises to assign all rights to anything I develop (patents, copyrights, and ?) to the company. I have no problem with the first agreement (non-disclosure). But I have problems with the second, part of which I quote: To assign to Company ... whatever right, title and interest I may at any time have, throughout the world, in and to each invention and any application for Letters Patent... which is first conceived or first actually reduced to practice by me or at my direction, solely or jointly with others, during the term of my employment with Company, except that this agreement to assign shall not apply to an invention for which no equipment, supplies, facility, or trade secret information of the Company was used and which was developed entirely on my own time, and (a) which does not relate (1) to the business of the Company (2) to the Company's actual or demonstrably anticipated research or development, or (b) which does not result from any work I perform for the Company. A similar paragraph deals with copyrightable material. First, it seems all-encompassing. I am being asked to sign away all rights to anything I do while employed by this company. The exceptions do not seem to provide an adequate protection, for the following reasons: (1) The phrase "equipment, supplies, facility..." seems to mean that if I wrote something down using a Company-provided pencil, OR if I was in the Company cafeteria, that this would give the Company ownership of whatever I wrote. (2) Since the company I work for is rather large, that which "relates to the business of the Company and to the Company's actaul or demonstrably anticipated research or development" could be almost anything. "Demonstrably anticpated research" especially. (3) "Resulting from any work I perform for the Company" is likewise vague. I learned most (not all) of what I know about 'C' and UNIX (tm) here. Does that mean if I write anything in or about 'C' or UNIX that it belongs to the company? Second, there is no 'quid pro quo' (Latin phrase meaning that if I give up something, I should get something in return). The agreement itself does not stipulate that the Company will do anything for me in return for assigning these rights. And to those who say that I get a job in return for this agreement, that isn't actually true. I get paid a salary for performing work. My salary is therefore compensation for my time, not my rights. Additionally, the offer letter which I received (which I understand to be a legal document) did not stipulate that it was conditional on signing such an agree- ment. The offer did contain one condition; to wit, that I must take a physical examination at company expense, which might be another interesting topic. At my previous company, I questioned this agreement, and obtained an amendment to the effect that certain specific software products I had in mind to develop on my home computer (that's as much as I can say without disclosing MY trade secrets) were not covered by the patent agreement. This does not appear to be an adequate solution, for two reasons: (1) I have to disclose my trade secrets to the Company in order to get the amendment. The legal department wants specifics. (2) This doesn't cover anything which I may later conceive. Do I have to get another amendment every time I think of a product I might develop? If so, do I have to wait for the Company legal staff to go through their time-consuming procedures before I can start development? I find it hard to believe that I am the only one to question this type of agreement. Has anyone refused to sign? Can a company really require such a thing? Tired of signing away my rights... Gary Samuelson ittvax!bunker!bunkerb!garys
mark@umcp-cs.UUCP (09/03/83)
Regarding quid pro quo for company patent agreements: I signed one of those things, and lo and behold there was a patent, and the vice president for engineering came down and in a minor ceremony handed myself and the other 3 inventors one dollar each for our patent rights, after which we signed the patent over to the company, and he shook our hands. -- spoken: mark weiser UUCP: {seismo,allegra,brl-bmd}!umcp-cs!mark CSNet: mark@umcp-cs ARPA: mark.umcp-cs@UDel-Relay