[net.misc] A Question Regarding Black Holes

jrm@wdl1.UUCP (08/23/85)

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Having failed to receive a satisfactory answer to this from the gurus in 
net.physics and net.astro.expert, I am now posing the question to
net.bizarre:
>	By definition, the gravitational feild of a black hole is so
> intense that not even light or other wavicles with velocity c can escape.
> My understanding is that gravity propagates with velocity c. (I believe 
> this has been proven. Correct?) Does this not imply that, at least as
> far as the outside universe is concerned, the black hole has no 
> gravitational feild?
>	Further, since everything with velocity <=c is kept within
> the black hole, does this not mean that the black hole is undetectable?
> Even to the extent that you could pass through one or it could pass
> through you and neither would know anything had happened?
>	Does quantum mechanics affect this? (In terms of "things"
> escaping from the black hole.)

epm0@bunny.UUCP (Erik Mintz) (08/27/85)

> >	By definition, the gravitational feild of a black hole is so
> > intense that not even light or other wavicles with velocity c can escape.

My recollection is that the definition is about electromagnetic
radiation. I don't recall anything being mentioned about the other
forces (gravitational, weak, or strong).

> > My understanding is that gravity propagates with velocity c. (I believe 
> > this has been proven. Correct?)

The basic statement (from relativity) is that no information can
propogate faster than the speed of light. If Gravity propogated faster
than C, you could create a gravitational telegraph, and violate this
principle.

> >	Does quantum mechanics affect this? (In terms of "things"
> > escaping from the black hole.)

What you want is probably more related to general relativity than
to quantum mechanics.

I am not an expert in this area. I post these speculations only due to
the lack of other responses. Other opinions are more than welcome.

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