mcq@drutx.UUCP (McQueerRL) (05/16/84)
[]---- This information goes back many years, and may no longer be true, but the Province of Ontario did have the "no standing up to drink in a bar" law. I recall my father talking about it from when we lived there. They thought it helped prevent barroom brawls apparently. They also had some odd hours of the day, something like 5:00-7:00, during which bars could not be open. Right around dinner time at any rate. The result was that all the drunks got kicked out of the bars, wandered around for a couple hours and went back in. There was also a time when the Province of Alberta had a rule that a woman couldn't enter a bar without a male escort. This was within the memory of reasonably young people whom I knew in Montana in the mid '70s. Sure shot hell out of the idea of ladies nights, besides being chauvinist. Many Southern states have variations of the "brown bag" idea. One common one is that liquor can't be sold by the drink. You have to buy "package" liquor, and bars will serve you your mixer along with those little airline bottles. I've seen this in South Carolina. My own original native state of Pennsylvania has (at least as of two years ago) only State-owned liquor stores and not even beer sales in the supermarkets. The result was two places you could buy beer - in a bar (bar prices for a six pack) or at a "beverage distributor" who sold only by the case - you always bought beer by the case. The state stores sold only wine and liquor - exactly the same prices statewide. I remember "self-service" liquor stores being a new idea, and existing only on a limited basis - most of the liquor stores required you to ask the guy behind the counter to go fetch what you wanted. Bob McQueer ihnp4!druxt!mcq
ntt@dciem.UUCP (Mark Brader) (05/18/84)
drutx!mcq tells: My own original native state of Pennsylvania has (at least as of two years ago) only State-owned liquor stores and not even beer sales in the supermarkets. The result was two places you could buy beer - in a bar (bar prices for a six pack) or at a "beverage distributor" who sold only by the case - you always bought beer by the case. The state stores sold only wine and liquor - exactly the same prices statewide. This is the case here in the Province of Ontario too. You buy liquor and wine at Liquor Control Board of Ontario stores, beer at Brewers Retail stores. Prices are uniform and high. I believe the LCBO also has a few "Rare Wine" stores, but if they don't have the product you want either, you're stuck. Incidentally, closing time for bars here is 1 am, but once or twice in the last few years when there have been big conventions in town, the bars in the appropriate hotels have been allowed to open until 3 or 4 am. For hotel guests only. I'm surprised they didn't make them show a US passport too. :-) Mark Brader (I don't drink, but I'm reasonable sure of all this anyway...)
andrew@inmet.UUCP (05/19/84)
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inmet!andrew May 17 12:45:00 1984
Speaking of "little airline bottles" and the state of Pennsylvania... I've
heard such bottles are illegal in that state and that the airlines a) have
to do something strange with them when landing there, and b) can't serve
them when *flying over the state!* Anyone know anything more about this?
Andrew W. Rogers, Intermetrics ...{harpo|ihnp4|ima|esquire}!inmet!andrewandrew@inmet.UUCP (05/19/84)
#R:umcp-cs:-704400:inmet:16000007:000:843 inmet!andrew May 17 13:15:00 1984 > There was also a time when the Province of Alberta had a rule that a woman > couldn't enter a bar without a male escort. This was within the memory of > reasonably young people whom I knew in Montana in the mid '70s. Sure shot > hell out of the idea of ladies nights, besides being chauvinist. Well, I don't know of any such laws currently in force, but I also don't know of any state laws *forbidding* any bar, etc. from enforcing such a policy. As recently as 1978, the Berkshire Hilton in Pittsfield, MA would not allow unescorted women to enter the bar. The local GE divisions had a hard time convincing female applicants to accept job offers after being treated in this manner, and finally had to threaten to lodge applicants (of both sexes) elsewhere. Andrew W. Rogers, Intermetrics ...{harpo|ihnp4|ima|esquire}!inmet!andrew
mark@umcp-cs.UUCP (05/21/84)
Didn't Toronto once have a law that one could not stand up in a bar
with a drink in one's hand? I have vivid memory of being hauled
down by my friends when I attempted to walk to another table.
I had to hand my drink to a waitress (employees were exceptions to the rule)
who carried the drink for me.
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Spoken: Mark Weiser ARPA: mark@maryland
CSNet: mark@umcp-cs UUCP: {seismo,allegra}!umcp-cs!markron@brl-vgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (05/24/84)
I have had little bottles (called minitures by the industry) over Pennsylvania so it is either a flagrant disregard for the law or it doesn't really exits. The District of Columbia banned the sale of minitures because they felt that they would cause too much impulse buying of alchohol (some drunk going in and getting one anytime he bumbed 50 cents or whatever). You can only buy them in six packs. -Ron