scw@cepu.UUCP (05/13/84)
Dry counties (in Texas) with great huge liquor stores just across the county
line.
No mixed drinks in North Carolina (before 1971?). Bars close at 0200 everyday
except Saturday they close at 2400, (Washington DC) (this law may also be out
of date).
--
Stephen C. Woods (VA Wadsworth Med Ctr./UCLA Dept. of Neurology)
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How about Oklahoma, which had prohibition until 1959 (and still would
today, had not a smart anti-prohibition governor realized that the only
way to get the law repealed would be to really enforce it for a
while)?
Nowadays, Oklahoma rules anything except 3.2 beer to be "hard liquor".
That means no wine in grocery stores, no wine to anyone under 21, no
wine in restaurants (because Oklahoma doesn't allow liquor-by-the-drink).
One of the funnier stories coming from Oklahoma happened about seven or
eight years ago. At that time, women could buy beer at 18, while men
had to be 19. A college freshman from my home town of Stillwater took
the issue to Federal court, charged sexual discrimination, and won.
The result? The Oklahoma legislature promptly raised the beer-buying
age for both sexes to 19!
--- Prentiss Riddle ("Aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada.")
--- {ihnp4,seismo,gatech,ctvax}!ut-sally!riddlefish@ihu1g.UUCP (Bob Fishell) (05/15/84)
(oo)
If you want to talk dumb, 3.2 beer takes the keg. We had it for
years in Ohio; maybe they still do -- I haven't lived there for
years. You can get falling-down, cross-eyed drunk on 3.2 beer
just as you can on harder stuff. It just takes you longer. I know,
because I put away an ocean of the stuff in the years between my
18th and 21st birthdays, and more than once did I take a little
drive in the porcelain bus.
--
Bob Fishell
ihnp4!ihu1g!fishrcd@opus.UUCP (05/16/84)
Lemme see if I can get this mess right for Colorado. We have a
distinction between "3.2 beer" (minimum age 18) and regular beer (no
strength constraint; minimum age 21).
An establishment needs separate licenses for:
- 3.2 beer package sales (no consumption on premises)
- wine/reg.beer/liquor package sales (no consumption on premises)
- 3.2 beer served on premises
- wine/beer served on premises
- wine/beer/liquor served on premises
There are funny restrictions - I think that the liquor package sales can't
be combined with any sale on premises. Hours differ - e.g., wine/beer/
liquor is for ->2 AM except Sunday which is ->midnight. 3.2 beer is
->midnight except Sunday which is 8 PM unless you have a modified form of
the license. Package sales are not allowed on Sundays...AAAIIIEEE
There are places where I wouldn't mind seeing some Federal standardization
of the regulations - if perhaps they could make it simpler only out of
inability to administer one this messy.
And how about the odd laws that close bars and liquor stores on election
days. Yes, I know why the laws exist WRT bars, but liquor stores???? I
guess if you're too damn stupid to buy your booze the day before the
election, you just have to stay sober. Looking at this year's election
prospects, I'm gonna NEED a drink after I vote - and one or two beforehand
probably wouldn't hurt!
--
...A friend of the devil is a friend of mine. Dick Dunn
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inmet!andrew May 16 14:04:00 1984
Utah used to have a sexually-discriminatory drinking age (18 for women, 21
for men) until the U.S. Supreme Court invalidated it. No, I don't know
whether Utah went to 18 or 21 for everyone.
Andrew W. Rogers, Intermetrics ...{harpo|ihnp4|ima|esquire}!inmet!andrewwmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) (05/18/84)
Re possible federal standards for booze sales overriding wierd state & local restrictions: Since the "interstate commerce" clause/loophole/whatever can be used for federal regulation of retail sales in areas like "Fair Trade" and the proposed FTC regulations in areas like used car sales and funeral practices, why couldn't it also be used to establish uniform alcoholic beverage sale regulations? What's intrinsically different in this situation? After all, the BATF establishes federal rulings for liquor package sizes (notice the metric bottles?) and label markings now. Will
gordon@cae780.UUCP (05/25/84)
Concerning closing of liquor stores on election day:
One upon a time, like early 19th century, a candidate would go
buy a hogshead of rum and set up at the polling place, offering
a free drink to anyone who promised to vote for them. If
business was better than expected, it meant a trip to the
liquor store to buy another barrel. At least in South Carolina,
the closing of liquor stores on election day was a reaction to
this practice.
(Aside: since their liquor laws are in their state constitution,
they change verrrrrry slowly)
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