wildbill@ucbvax.ARPA (William J. Laubenheimer) (05/11/85)
About the only thing I can think of would be to use it on bank accounts, stock certificates, and other interest-bearing items, for purposes of income tax evasion. Even there, it would probably be necessary to go through some contortions to avoid exposing too easily the fact that the person controlling the account doesn't match the person whose SSN is on the account - I think anybody trying this would set him/herself up for at least a perjury charge on top of the tax evasion ("I hereby affirm under penalty of perjury..."). This doesn't seem to be the type of problem that the SSN paranoids are worried about, though. Most of them are afraid that Big Brother is going to come along and organize all the data associated with that number, so He can find out what they had for breakfast on June 3, 1983 or some other equally important piece of information. (Some of them are afraid Big Brother has already done this.) Anyway, being constitutionally (small-c) opposed to such tactics, these people are determined to make it as hard as possible on Big Brother by limiting as much as possible the amount of information He can collect in this fashion, thus their reluctance to associate any information with their SSN. As for myself, if Big Brother wants to know what I had for breakfast on June 3, 1983 (probably nothing - I eat breakfast very rarely), He's welcome to try and find the cash register tape from the grocery store and try to figure out what I might have used for breakfast, and good luck to Him. This brings to mind another solution to the problem the SSN paranoids are worried about. If, instead of trying to limit the information in Big Brother's hands, you make sure that He has as much as possible and that the vast majority of it is absolutely or nearly worthless, this can be at least as effective as trying to give Him no information (so any information He does obtain will be known to be valuable) and failing, as will be bound to occur. After all, if Big Brother collects a mere 4 bytes of information a day from everybody in the country, that adds up to almost a gigabyte right there. And you still have to process it so you can get at it later when you need it. I think this would be a much more entertaining solution to the problem of limiting the amount of effective information in the government's hands. Bill Laubenheimer ----------------------------------------UC-Berkeley Computer Science ...Killjoy went that-a-way---> ucbvax!wildbill
sher@rochester.UUCP (David Sher) (05/13/85)
I know someone who got into no end of credit problems due to revealing (accidently) his SSN. One of his students read his SSN and used it and his name to apply for credit cards all across the country. He found out about it from a bank and called and sent letters to every company that the student applied to. Most of the calls were met with derision and the letters ignored. The student was issued several credit cards. He was caught when he lost a credit card and reapplied. The moral of this story is: Don't unnecessarily reveal your SSN! The names have been left out to protect the innocent and guilty alike. -David Sher