[net.legal] UPS delivery

lagasse@biomed.UUCP (Robert C. Lagasse) (07/30/85)

         I always thought that if you received a package via the US mail or
UPS that you had to sign for it?  Well, in my neighborhood UPS just leaves
the packages when I am not home by trying to "hide" it behind something or
somewhere in my yard.  I have discovered UPS packages in the most
unseemingly places probably DAYS after they were "delivered".  Do they have
the right to do this.  What if a package is stolen, who pays??  I am
currently waiting for a particular package that is long overdue and having
been on vacation, fear that it was left somewhere and then stolen, or, I
just haven't discovered it yet in its hiding place.  UPS used to leave a
note that said they tried to deliver the package and that I could now pick
it up between the hours of such-and-such at their warehouse. Fine.  Is this
practice widespread or is it just this one driver?  Does he/she forge my
signature just to go back with an empty truck?  UPS is impossible to talk to
about the problem (over the phone anyway).   The US postal people always
leave a note to pick up the package at the post office if no one is home.
Isn't UPS supposed to do the same?  The drivers used to find a next door
neighbor to sign for the packages. That is fine with me. (how legal is it
anyway?)  Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Bob Lagasse

john@anasazi.UUCP (John Moore) (08/01/85)

Regarding UPS drivers leaving packages around...

My regular UPS driver leaves packages near the door, knocks once,
and departs. It seems to work okay, but I have often wondered what
happens if it gets snatched.
	John

weltyrp@rpics.UUCP (Richard Welty) (08/03/85)

> 
>          I always thought that if you received a package via the US mail or
> UPS that you had to sign for it?  Well, in my neighborhood UPS just leaves
> the packages when I am not home by trying to "hide" it behind something or
> somewhere in my yard.  I have discovered UPS packages in the most
> ...
I went through this some years back.
UPS is not required to obtain a signature, and often they do not
try to get one.  If they DO NOT obtain a signature, and the package
is never recieved by the addresse, they are liable for the replacement
value.

For several years now, UPS has not been collecting signatures in many cases
because it is cheaper for them to dump the package and pay up on what claims
there are than to make multiple attempts at delivery ...
-- 
				Rich Welty

	(I am both a part-time grad student at RPI and a full-time
	 employee of a local CAE firm, and opinions expressed herein
	 have nothing to do with anything at all)

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