[tor.general] Know anything about piano moving/movers?

kaarel@csri.toronto.edu (Kaarel Truuvert) (01/31/89)

I want to move an upright piano from my parents' place to my place. There are,
however, two problems:
- it's darned heavy
- it wont fit around a certain narrow hallway corner right-side-up.

The solution to the first problem is to hire piano movers to do the job. So
the first question is: can anyone recommend a good, cheap piano moving
company? Since the piano will need tuning afterwards, I'll lean more
towards a company that moves and tunes as well.

A possible solution to the second problem is to turn the piano on its end. So
the second question is: can one turn an upright piano on its end without doing
damage to the insides?

Many thanks in advance.

Kaarel Truuvert				kaarel@csri.utoronto.ca
Dept. of Computer Science		kaarel@csri.toronto.edu
University of Toronto

snell@utzoo.uucp (snell) (01/31/89)

In article <8901301908.AA17048@willcocks.csri.toronto.edu>,
kaarel@csri.toronto.edu (Kaarel Truuvert) writes:

>I want to move an upright piano from my parents' place to my place. There are,
>however, two problems:
>- it's darned heavy

A cut-off, price-wise, for most companies is an upright of 48 inches height.
Gets a _lot_ more expensive if it is bigger (ours is BIG).  
Part of moving a large piano is strength.  Part is technique.  Get a 
professional to do it, and 1) no ones back will be put out, and 2) the
piano will not be dropped.

>- it wont fit around a certain narrow hallway corner right-side-up.

Unless there is something wrong with the piano, it will certainly
be able to go on end without problem (it was gotten in there somehow...).
They will pop it on rollers, on end for the flat part, and likely
just `beast it' down the stairs.
This is NOT a problem.

>The solution to the first problem is to hire piano movers to do the job. So
>the first question is: can anyone recommend a good, cheap piano moving
>company? Since the piano will need tuning afterwards, I'll lean more
>towards a company that moves and tunes as well.

Having recently moved a 1000+ lb upright, I would suggest you get 
a specialist to do each.  Otherwise, you will simply get a company
which subcontracts the tuning (and thus keeps a big chunk).  Good tuners
are rare enough that they can stay as busy as they want working freelance,
and it will not cost you more to hire one separately.  And, in future,
if you want the same tuner, you will have to keep lining the moving
companies pocket (unless the tuner moonlites).

I was very satified with the piano move done by The Piano Mover: 881-1015.
It cost $75 to go 3km, 6 steps at each end.  This is very standard, and
every company charges extra for go up and down flights of stairs.

I am satisfied with my tuner: Benny Chan--293-4325, cost $45.

I would be very surprised if you can get a piano moved and tuned for < $100.
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stuart@hcr.UUCP (Stuart Thompson) (02/01/89)

In article <8901301908.AA17048@willcocks.csri.toronto.edu> kaarel@csri.toronto.edu.UUCP writes:
>
>I want to move an upright piano from my parents' place to my place. There are,
>however, two problems:
>- it's darned heavy
>- it wont fit around a certain narrow hallway corner right-side-up.
>
>A possible solution to the second problem is to turn the piano on its end. So
>the second question is: can one turn an upright piano on its end without doing
>damage to the insides?
>

I'm not sure about the insides of the piano but you might try consulting:

1) J.T. Schwartz, M. Sharir, "On the Piano Movers Problem I: The Case of
   a Two-Dimensional Rigid Polygonal Body Moving Amidst Polygonal Barriers,"
   Communications on Pure and Applied Mathematics, Vol. XXXVI, 1983.
2) J.T. Schwartz, M. Sharir, "On the Piano Movers Problem II: General
   Properties for Computing Topological Properties of Real Algebraic
   Manifolds," Rept. 41: New York University Department of Computer Science,
   Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences, N.Y., 1982.
3) J.T. Schwartz, M. Sharir, "On the Piano Movers Problem III: Coordinating
   the motion of Several Independent Bodies: The Special Case of Circular
   Bodies Moving Among Polygonal Barriers," Rept. New York University
   Department of Computer Science, Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences,
   N.Y., 1983.

Take this advice with a grain of salt, but it really is an interesting problem!

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nick@aimed.UUCP (Nick Pemberton) (02/02/89)

In article <8901301908.AA17048@willcocks.csri.toronto.edu>, kaarel@csri.toronto.edu (Kaarel Truuvert) writes:
> 
> I want to move an upright piano from my parents' place to my place. There are,
> however, two problems:
 [description of narrow corridor problem]

Have you considered taking it apart. Usually uprights can be disassembled such
that the action, pedals, keyboard and supporting woodwork are moved in
separate pieces. The largest part is then the soundboard. I had to do this
to move our upright, and it wasn't too bad (and it was easy enough to
transport with a bunch of friends)

Hope this helps,

Nick
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malton@csri.toronto.edu (Andrew Malton) (02/03/89)

For piano moving: if you value the instrument have it done by a good
professional firm. Banging about maybe alright for Ikea tables but not
for a four thousand dollar (plus) musical instrument. Mine was moved
across the city and tuned for about $120, which I consider reasonable
(Lowrey did it). Don't trust anyone who tunes then and there, it
needs a month at least to get used  to the new climate.

*Don't take it apart* unless you're a piano builder or it's one of those
(nothing wrong with it we just had it repainted...) bar pianos. The tone
of a nice old instrument can be permanently ruined by dismantling it.

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