[net.text] INFO needed for APPLE LASERWRITER + troff

giulio@strolog.UUCP (Giulio Bertellini) (09/27/85)

1. To use the APPLE LASERWRITER effectively and to
use the features of the postscript language, I would
like to exchange views on the relative benefits of
using:

  a) troff + some filters, possibly public domain filters

  b) formatters other than troff

2. Has anyone seen announcements concerning use of
the Postcript language from UNIX (any version, either
System III, System V, Xenix, etc.).

3. Could anyone mail me Adobe Systems Network Address?

Giulio Bertellini

	   (mcvax!strolog!giulio)

olson@lasspvax.UUCP (Todd Olson) (10/14/85)

In article <118@strolog.UUCP> giulio@strolog.UUCP (Giulio Bertellini) 
asks about
> ... [using] the APPLE LASERWRITER and ... the postscript language ... [via]
>  a) troff + some filters, possibly public domain filters
>  b) formatters other than troff
>
>2. Has anyone seen announcements concerning use of
>the Postcript language from UNIX (any version, either
>System III, System V, Xenix, etc.).

  We've had our LaserWriter hooked to our VAX running bsd4.2 unix for a couple
of months now.  We are using Adobe's Transcript to filter our troff files
and send them to the LW.  It seems to work fine, thought several people have
complained about results being different from the Imagen(?) we used to 
borrow (We are all still troff/LW beginners here ...).  It also take lpr input.
  We can also write postscript files directly and send them to the printer.
In fact, Adobe includes a bunch of 'cookbook' postscript examples for the user
to experiment with.  Admittedly working with postscript directly  is sort of
lowlevel, but you can do some very fancy things, and since the language is
in the Threaded Interpreted class (eg Forth) if you are serious about it you
can create what ever high level 'words' (commands) that you want.  
(I'm thinking about surface plotting words for f(x,y) as well as 
fermi-surfaces(physics) and such).
  Now, what I'd really like to get a hold of is a postscript interpreter for
an arbitrary bit mapped device so that by giving the (numpic X numpic) of my
DecWriter, I can have it print my postscript files.

>3. Could anyone mail me Adobe Systems Network Address?

A while ago Adobe put a message on the net about their two new books, 
published by Addison-Wesley
	Postscript language Reference Manual
	  by Adobe systems Incorporated
	  ISBN 0-201-10174-2

	Postscript language Tutorial and Cookbook
	  by Adobe systems Incorporated
	  ISBN ???

I just happened to save the header of that message which I have abreviated
and included below.  I hope it helps.
  BTW. I got a copy of the first book from our campus bookstore.  It seems
rather well done.  Appendix D gives some details of the LW, including how
to use it interactively.  (the second book was not yet in the bookstore)

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From cornell!vax135!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!decwrl!Glacier!adobe!shore Thu Aug 29 12:29:18 EDT 1985
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>From: shore@adobe.UUCP (Andrew Shore)
Reply-To: shore@adobe.UUCP (Andrew Shore)
Organization: Adobe Systems, Palo Alto
Keywords: PostScript

Adobe Systems Incorporated
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-- 
Todd Olson

ARPA: olson@lasspvax  -- or --  olson%lasspvax.tn.cornell.edu@cu-arpa
UUCP: {ihnp4,allegra,...}!cornell!lasspvax!olson
US Mail: Dept Physics, Clark Hall, Cornell University,
	 Ithaca, New York 14853-2501

shore@adobe.UUCP (Andrew Shore) (10/14/85)

Adobe Systems (my employer, the developer of PostScript) sells
a package called "TranScript" to drive PostScript printers from
UNIX systems.  TranScript contains output translation filters for
	- troff C/A/T files
	- ditroff intermeditate files
	- plot(5) files
	- Diablo 630 print files 
	- simple text files ("lineprinter listings")
	- Tektronix 4014 files

TranScript release 2.0 is compatible with both 4.2BSD and
System V Unix systems and contains spooler interfaces for the
4.2BSD lpr/lpd/printcap spooler and the System V lp/lpsched
spooler architectures.

TranScript supports serial communication with ALL announced
PostScript printers:
	Apple LaserWriter
	QMS PS-800, 1200, and 2400
	Dataproducts LZR-2660 and 2665
	Linotype Linotronic 100 and 300

Several other systems running under Unix produce PostScript
print files (which may be spooled and printed with TranScript);
among them:
	Scribe (from Unilogic)
	Two filters for TeX DVI files:
	- one from Textset of Ann Arbor
	- one public domain implementation
	  (contact the Unix-TeX people at Washington)
	A driver for the S statistics package was posted to 
	the net some time ago.

For more information (pricing, ordering, etc.) about TranScript
or PostScript, write:

	Adobe Systems Incorporated
	1870 Embarcadero Road, Suite 100
	Palo Alto, CA  94303

	Attn: Megan Furner

Or call:
	(415) 852-0271

Also, two books about PostScript (authored by Adobe Systems) 
have been published by Addison-Wesley Publishing Company of Reading, Mass.

	"The PostScript Language Reference Manual",
	336 pages, illustrated, $22.95, ISBN 0-201-10174-2

	"The PostScript Language Tutorial and Cookbook",
	256 pages, illustrated, $16.95, ISBN 0-201-10179-3

Both books should be available (or orderable) in local bookstores.


--Andy Shore
  Adobe Systems Incorporated

[Many names above are trademarks or registered trademarks of
various companies, too lengthy to enumerate here.]

We are on Usenet and are 1-hop away from several ARPA sites.
We read news, laser-lovers and info-mac religiously and flame seldom.
My address is:

  {decwrl glacier sun}!adobe!shore
  adobe!shore@{decwrl glacier}.ARPA	(or newer domain names)

jel@iclbra.UUCP (John Lockwood) (10/18/85)

> >3. Could anyone mail me Adobe Systems Network Address?
> 
> If you find one, could you let me know, or maybe post it to this newsgroup.
> 
> 					- Stephen Frede
> 					UNSW, Australia
> 
> 					..decvax!mulga!stephenf@elecvax.oz

Ok due to popular demand here is adobes address

	...!kcl-cs!jenny!adobe

You could try mailing to the following person at adobe (he might object and if
he does I apologise in advance)

	!adobe!shore@ARPA.su-glacier


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reid@Glacier.ARPA (Brian Reid) (10/21/85)

>You could try mailing to the following person at adobe (he might object
>and if he does I apologise in advance)
>
>	!adobe!shore@ARPA.su-glacier

As the postmaster of su-glacier, I would like to object. This address won't
work. Andy Shore of Adobe can be reached at
	adobe!shore@SU-Glacier.ARPA
or
	{decwrl,hplabs,sun,bellcore}!glacier!adobe!shore

I don't think that the folks at Adobe have yet set up "customer assistance"
or "inquiry" computer mail address, but I'll bet that if enough people bug
Andy with mail, he might just set one up.
-- 
	Brian Reid	decwrl!glacier!reid
	Stanford	reid@SU-Glacier.ARPA

stephenf@elecvax.eecs.unsw.oz (Stephen Frede) (12/28/85)

>1. To use the APPLE LASERWRITER effectively and to
>use the features of the postscript language, I would
>like to exchange views on the relative benefits of
>using:
>
>  a) troff + some filters, possibly public domain filters

I have written various programs that generate postscript, including
troff filters, drivers for our local graphics package (grogan), and
plain text filters. It is all quite straightforward, and I can supply
them if you want.

>  b) formatters other than troff
We are getting TeX, and Scribe is too expensive for us, but I imagine that
it would be fairly easy to develop postscript generators for these.

>2. Has anyone seen announcements concerning use of
>the Postcript language from UNIX (any version, either
>System III, System V, Xenix, etc.).

No
>3. Could anyone mail me Adobe Systems Network Address?

If you find one, could you let me know, or maybe post it to this newsgroup.

					- Stephen Frede
					UNSW, Australia

					..decvax!mulga!stephenf@elecvax.oz