td@alice.UUCP (Tom Duff) (06/21/84)
Requests to obtain pirated copies of copyright material are at best in poor taste, and at worst illegal. Be it known that Lucasfilm, Ltd., the copyright owner of ROJ and ESB (and my former employer) will vigourously prosecute ANYONE (not just the `big guys') who violates their copyright. Their lawyers are bigger than your lawyers, and they have nothing better to do with their time than protect the company's property. Furthermore, counselling or soliciting the commision of a crime is itself a crime. Such activity using as fragile a medium as USENET is a grievous breach of propriety. I take it as a personal insult, if not an injury. If you do it again, I will personally drive to Piscataway and kill your pet budgie. Also, USENET extends to the Lucasfilm Computer Division, and thence to the legal department. They ALREADY know that this request was posted. Respect for our intellectual property laws is part and parcel of respect for an individual's right to benefit from the fruit of his labors. That George's income is in the millions of dollars per annum does not diminish his right to one red cent of it, and it certainly increases his ability to defend himself. I am a champion of intellectual freedom and therefore a friend of the protection of intellectual property. It is a Libertarian maxim that `All property is theft.' The only case in which this fails is that of intellectual property. You own the things you devise, and no one (esp. P. M. Iurilli) has the right to deprive you of them. I have digressed. I intended only to say that I am offended and insulted by this solicitation to violate the intellectual property laws. I strongly reccomend that anyone considering such a conspiracy think twice, and I demand an apology for this offensive and insulting behavior.
smb@ulysses.UUCP (Steven Bellovin) (06/21/84)
Thank you Tom Duff. You said exactly what I was going to say, only better. --Steve Bellovin
wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler) (06/21/84)
This must be a joke. Who in their right mind would tempt fate so boldly? Advertising for pirate copies of unreleased movies? You gotta be kidding. It makes me nervous to think what could happen to the writer if Lucas and Co. see that bold article.
mfe@ihuxu.UUCP (Mike Eastman) (06/22/84)
I ALSO do not think one should use a forum such as USENET to solicit for pirated copies of copyright material lest we loose the right to this medium altogether! I ALSO do not think one should use a forum such as USENET to solicit for pirated copies of copyright material lest we loose the right to this medium altogether! -- "Do you like to dream, Gomez?" Mike Eastman ihuxu!mfe "No, I have better nightmares AT&T Bell Laboratories when I'm awake!" Naperville, IL IH 2C-319 (312)979-2847
ags@pucc-i (Seaman) (06/22/84)
> Be it known that Lucasfilm, Ltd., the > copyright owner of ROJ and ESB (and my former employer) will vigourously > prosecute ANYONE (not just the `big guys') who violates their copyright. > > Also, USENET extends to the Lucasfilm Computer Division, and thence to the > legal department. They ALREADY know that this request was posted. Ah, now it becomes clear. This is obviously a sting operation. -- Dave Seaman "My hovercraft is full of eels." ..!pur-ee!pucc-i:ags
scw@cepu.UUCP (06/22/84)
>This must be a joke. Who in their right mind would tempt fate >so boldly? Advertising for pirate copies of unreleased movies? >You gotta be kidding. It makes me nervous to think what could >happen to the writer if Lucas and Co. see that bold article. What do you mean IF, ILM is on the net, when is much more accurate. This fellow was not playing with a full deck, me thinks. -- Stephen C. Woods (VA Wadsworth Med Ctr./UCLA Dept. of Neurology) uucp: { {ihnp4, uiucdcs}!bradley, hao, trwrb, sdcsvax!bmcg}!cepu!scw ARPA: cepu!scw@ucla-cs location: N 34 06'37" W 118 25'43"
fish@ihu1g.UUCP (Bob Fishell) (06/22/84)
Maybe it's just Big Brother trying to entrap somebody into coming
accross with the tapes.
Well look, stooge, if I had copies of those films on VT, I sure as
hell wouldn't let on about it! Why don't you advertise for some
Cocaine in net.wanted while you're at it?
As long as we're on the subject: The original "Star Wars" has
been available LEGALLY for quite some time now, but does anybody
know if it's available in VHS Hi-Fi? I don't have a VHS Hi-Fi
VCR, but I might get one with stereo TV coming and movies like
SW available with high-quality stereo soundtracks.
--
Bob Fishell
ihnp4!ihu1g!fishhawk@oliven.UUCP (Rick Hawkins) (06/23/84)
[may the bug be with you] >Can anyone give me a source for obtaining video cassettes (VHS) of the >Star Wars sequels The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi? I am >aware that they are not released in the usual fashion, so no flames or >mail telling me they're not available, please! I know they're out there >in netland somewhere for the right price (which I am willing to pay), and >that it's just a matter of locating a source. They're probably under wraps >but I'm hoping to shake one loose! You are asking for a flagrant, solicited violation of US patent law. This will not be a case of harmlessly or unknowingly posting material to the net. There is no legal question here except that of exactly which crimes the prosecutor will choose to charge you with. So far, the only one that I am aware of is solicitation of an illegal act. Anyone who assists you will be an accomplice at best. hawk
chongo@nsc.UUCP (Landon C. Noll) (06/24/84)
i feel a tiny (but not too much) sorry for you. criminal action out on the open public with disregard for the law makes a strong legal case against you. and doing it in a newsgroup which LucasFilm folks must surely read takes a whole bunch of GAUL. (perhaps you could go for the insanity defense?) normally i would just let the other comments stand, but in this case i feel it is important for USENET folks to strongly condemn your action. legal stuff aside, your type of request does harm to the net. USENET can be the forum for the exchange of useful information, and a place to relax and hang out. but using it for shady reasons is one way to ruin it for others. chongo <do i get free tickets to SW-1 for this?> /\**/\
ron@brl-vgr.ARPA (06/24/84)
Patent law? Now really. -Ron
tggsu@resonex.UUCP (Tom Gulvin Root) (06/28/84)
If you want Hi-fidelity sound versions of SW-ANH, get yourself a laserdisc player and a copy of it (you may have to try several copies - LD QA is not so hot..) Tom "50 inch projection TV and LD player" Gulvin - Resonex, Inc.
cpma@vice.UUCP (John Thomas) (07/12/84)
Lately, LaserDisc quality has been running about 80-90 % good, as viewed on a LD-700 player and a Kloss 87 inch projector. The older players can often be had cheaply (trade-in) but cupped discs cause interference which does not affect the LD-700.
figmo@tymix.UUCP (Lynn Gold) (10/11/84)
"The Empire Strikes Back" is supposed to be out on videocassette and laserdisk around Christmas. Some video stores are already taking orders (I have mine in!). --Lynn
agjenkin@west44.UUCP (Alun Jenkins) (10/26/84)
<eat it,eat it, if it gets cold reheat it> TESB videos were released in the UK on October 18th. Ok so its a long way to come but that means it sould be out in the US pretty soon. Alun Jenkins ...ukc!west44!agjenkins
yee@ucbvax.ARPA (Peter E. Yee) (10/27/84)
Concerning videotapes of The Empire Strikes Back, one local video store in the SF Bay Area says that it will have it in stock by Nov 12. For those in the Bay Area, the store is: Claremont/Rockridge Home Video 5899 College Avenue Oakland, California (415) 428-9107 For the rest of you, I would imagine that it should be available in other areas before Christmas. I learned about the release from a newspaper add. -Peter Yee ..ucbvax!yee yee@Berkeley.ARPA