[net.micro.cbm] C128 is real

pjm@spuxll.UUCP (PJ Maioriello) (08/20/85)

As you may have guessed from the header I have seen
a real C128.  In fact I am now the proud owner of one complete
with its over-stuck FCC approval sticker.

I have only had it for about 3 days so I ams still
checking it out.

If anybody has anything they would like to know, I can
try to check it out for you.  Perhaps it would be best to post
such items since others may want the info too, and I will
probably post the answers.  Also any ensuing discussions
should probably take place in net.micro.cbm.  Maybe it can
be squezzed in with the AMIGA talk in there.

Here's a few tidbits that I have run acrross since buying
my machine:


EVERYTHING I have tried so far in 64 mode has worked flawlessly.
This includes my fastload cartridge, various games, the original
C64 demo, and some hi-res pictures.

The Basic 7.0 is very nice.  You can do some pretty nice
graphics stuff with about a screenful of code.  Things like
allocating bit-mapped memory and protecting it are done automatically.
You can write some BIG basic programs.  You can play music as
simply as:

10 vol 15:rem set volume to max
20 play "x":rem x is a note in the musical scale, can have multiple x's

Thats enough to play music, but it is only the beginning.  The play
command is almost like a language in itself.  You can think of it as a
print command equivalent for music.  Also the memory expansion
is supported in the basic with commands like stash, fetch, and swap.
Options include "host" bank number, espansion bank number, memory location,
and number of bytes.

The guide that comdes with themachine is fairly complete.  It is actually
thicker that the programmers refernce guide for the 64, and it refernces
a programmers reference guide for the 128.

I dont know that much about CP/M yet.  It does boot from my MSD and
1541 drives.  It is also always resident (the 64 version had to be
rebooted after a tpa program ran).  The TPA on the 128 is 59k.  I think
that is bigger than typical CP/M sytems.  I got a program
called DISK that looked like it was originally for an Osborne to
run fine.  Some other C64 specific CPM programs crahed the 128
CP/M.  These programs seemed to try to take advantage of specific
64 features.  One program for instance, does a software 80 column
screen under the 64's basic kernal while the 64 is in CPM mode.
Needless, to say I was not too surprised with it didn't work on
the 128.


The place I brought at was Crazy Eddie's in East Brunswick, but
he is now out of stock.  I payed $299.  A local Caldor's
had some but they are now out of stock.  The guy there said their
order was undershipped by 4000 units.
He expected 1571 drives later in the day I was there, the 1670 modem
and the 1902 monitor about a month later.

All in all, I was favorably impressed.  The machine seems to capture
the best features of the 8 bit machines that have been around in the last couple
of years.


Thats all I have time for now, but I will attempt to get specific
information if anybody wants it.


Paul Maioriello
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