[net.micro.cbm] C64 Kermit

alpert@chovax.DEC (10/21/85)

 
> Commodore 64 Kermit allows easy uploading and downloading of files to any
> computer that supports Kermit.  It also has a software 80 col. screen.
> It fully supports VT52 emulation,  I have never had any problem
> with terminal emulation.  It does not, however support printing.  I am not
> sure where you can get Kermit.

I have a copy of C64 Kermit, but it is version 1.0 (read: buggy).  Basic
functionality is there, however.  If anyone is interested and can't find
a more recent version, I can provide a copy -- on the other hand, I'd
like to find a source for the latest and greatest version!

			Bob Alpert

			DEC Software Services
			6 Executive Campus, Rt. 70
			Cherry Hill, NJ 08002

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Andy Brown
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lenoil@mit-eddie.UUCP (Robert Scott Lenoil) (10/22/85)

In article <930@decwrl.UUCP> alpert@chovax.DEC writes:
>I have a copy of C64 Kermit, but it is version 1.0 (read: buggy).  Basic
>functionality is there, however.  If anyone is interested and can't find
>a more recent version, I can provide a copy -- on the other hand, I'd
>like to find a source for the latest and greatest version!

For the past half-year, I have been providing copies of C64 Kermit for
a small fee.  I try to obtain the latest version as soon as it becomes
available, and currently have version 1.7 (which is much, much better than
version 1.0).  Following is a copy of my original posting announcing the
service, containing all the relevant details.  Please note that I do not
have the ability to mass-duplicate Kermits, so I strongly encourage people
with Kermit to redistribute it among their friends, user groups, etc.

Robert Lenoil
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From: lenoil@mit-eddie.UUCP (Robert Scott Lenoil)
Newsgroups: net.micro.cbm
Subject: Re: Kermit for Commodore 64
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Date: Sun, 17-Mar-85 20:24:39 EST
Posted: Sun Mar 17 20:24:39 1985
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Reply-To: lenoil@mit-eddie.UUCP (Robert Scott Lenoil)
Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA
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Keywords: Kermit, Commodore, C64

To address your problem (how to obtain Kermit) I thought I'd let you
know that I am willing to provide Kermit diskettes to those people who
are reluctant or unable to go through the downloading procedure.  For
$7.00 (U.S. funds), I will provide a diskette containing the executable
code and documentation file.  (Outside North America, please enclose an
extra $1.00 to cover additional mailing expense.)  Note that Kermit is
written using the CROSS cross assembler which runs on DEC-10's and
DEC-20's; hence enclosing the source code would not be of much help.  An
additional problem is that the source code is larger than an entire 1541
diskette, and therefore would be too much trouble for me to copy.

Please note that I am not conducting a business.  I am making this offer
to increase the availability of Kermit, which I hold to be a fine program.
I must stress that Kermit may be copied free of charge, so long as this
copying is not for "explicitly commercial purposes"  (Taken from Columbia
University's policy document on Kermit distribution.), and those of you who
wish to do so may download it free of charge from Columbia University
machine CU20B (on ARPANET), using BITSERVE (from BITNET), or via UUCP from
host OKSTATE.

Having said that, I will now make the following, for profit, statement:
I have developed several utilities for the C64 which I have decided to
offer for sale.  These utilities are:

1) STRINGSORT
Adds a BASIC command for sorting two-dimensional string arrays (uses a
bi-directional bubble sort algorithm).  A sample usage would be:
GO A$,0,S,F.  This example would sort the two-dimensional array A$,
using column zero as key, and sorting all rows from S to F.  (Note that
any numeric expression is acceptable for the arguments.)  Due to a bug
that appeared otherwise, this command may not be given in direct mode.

2) DISK CATALOGER
This BASIC program writes out a new disk directory, which is
alphabetized and sorted by filetype.  (BASIC programs come first,
followed by sequential files, followed by relative files, followed by
machine language files.)  (A machine language program is any PGM file
that does not load into memory at address $0801, i.e. a file that you
must load with the secondary address 1.

3) BASIC PGM LISTER
This BASIC program reads a BASIC program from disk, and generates a
listing with REM statements in reverse and control codes changed to
English equivalents (e.g. a string consisting of clear screen, followed
by three cursor downs, would appear as: "[CLEAR][DOWN 3]".)  It
generates page headings, and also prints useful statistics at the end of
the listing.  These statistics are: # of lines, # of disk blocks, and #
of bytes.  It also includes memory conservation information, which is
useful for "crunching" large programs.  This info includes the number of
unnecessary spaces and the number of rem statements, along with the
total number of bytes that can be saved if they are removed.  (Will also
list BASIC 4.0 programs.)

4) FILECOPY
This is a simple (but effective) machine language program for copying
both sequential and program files.

These four utilities are available on a seperate diskette for ten dollars
(U.S. funds; again add extra $1.00 if outside North America), or I'll
include them on a Kermit diskette for five dollars above the cost of the
Kermit diskette alone.  Send requests and inquiries to:

			Robert Lenoil
			229 Commonwealth Avenue
			Boston, MA  02116  (USA)

anthony@utcsstat.uucp (Anthony Ayiomamitis) (10/25/85)

	I would also be grateful in receiving a source copy of Kermit for
my C64 - I desperately need upload/download capability etc.
	Many thanks in advance.   

Anthony.

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lenoil@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Robert Scott Lenoil) (04/17/86)

Immediately, as of this letter, I am no longer offering my service of
providing C64 Kermit copies.  It will take all my time in the coming
weeks just to graduate, and after that, I will be moving away and not
taking my C64 with me.

					Robert Lenoil

hsgj@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Dan Green) (04/19/86)

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   I wonder if someone could tell me what the latest version of Kermit
for the C64 is.  I have one that is 40 column vt52 emulation, but I
heard a rumor that there is now an 80 column vt52 version of Kermit.
If this is so, please verify, as 80 cols would be quite nice.  Note that
it is software 80 cols (ie 4pixel chars).
   Anyways, if such a thing exists:  I am on Bitnet and can use KERMSRV
to get kermit files, but when I retrieved C64KER.HEX it was encoded or
something.  The .HLP file did not explain how to decode it and get it
onto my commodore.  If anyone has a clue (someone must have a clue) as
to what to run to turn the .HEX into c64 ML, please let me know.
   Thanks for any assistance.

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