pvl@houxh.UUCP (07/28/83)
Installment two of the "Nude Recreation Primer" (and maybe the more interesting half: "Why?" Q: Where (exactly) are the events held? parking? facilities? A: Generally speaking, most beaches are, by definition, sort of out-of-the-way. That means a fairly long walk to get to them and no facilities when you do. The exception I know about is Sandy Hook, NJ. The parking lot is about a 15 minute walk from the clothes-optional section. The beach has trash cans and a volleyball net. Toilets are about 5 minutes away. No lifeguards. The events are generally held at a private residence. Parking and facilities will be commensurate. The Tri-State Metro Naturists' "get acquainted" event is being held at a private home which has a swimming pool. Q: Why go bare? and why is it so interesting? (I suspect that this is THE most widely read newsgroup even though it has had only 3 contributors) comfort? sexuality? protest? A: This, I suppose, is the question which should really have this newsgroup buzzing. It is hard to answer because real reasons may hide even from someone trying to be honest. I suspect that my reasons are: 1) Curiosity: what's it like to do what my mommy told me never to do? 2) The way it feels: Particularly while swimming it just feels much more reasonable to do away with a grungy piece of cloth. Some people really like it (like me). Others don't see the thrill. 3) OK, I'll admit this one: I like to look at naked women. I *will* say, though, that it soon becomes obvious that swimsuits are *much* sexier than nudity. 4) Vanity: If I'm going to get a tan, I don't want bathing suit lines messing it up. 5) Friendliness: At least until social nudity is fully accepted, those who practice it feel part of a group and are very friendly to other members of the group. It's nice to go to the beach and share a conversation with the people on the next blanket instead of grumbling about holding onto your 2 square feet of sand. 6) Others?? Q: Why are you so coy about these things? and why are there so few contributors to this newsgroup? fear? guilt? embarrassment? How about some articles from others? A: I didn't mean to be coy. Maybe I was trying to get some sort of commitment from others before laying out everything. I *did* get 11 responses to the request for Sandy Hook directions so I know that you *are* out there. OK...why *are* there so few contributors? Why *do* you read this newsgroup? What *about* some articles from others? I eagerly await the end to my monopoly of this newsgroup. Please do so. Pete LaMaster
hammy@mit-eddie.UUCP (J. Scott Hamilton) (07/29/83)
Let me be a voice out of the masses of silent readers of this newsgroup. I have been interested in nude social events for some time, but I have never found the opportunity to engage in such in my short twenty years of existance, eighteen of which having lived at home. I have been really intested in people describing what the "scene" is like before I would engage in such. If it turns out to be an activity where people engage solely in narcissistic pleasure or recreational voyeurism, I'm not interested. The bar scene reminds me too much of that. On the other hand, I would be intested in almost anything that helps bridge the gap of (what I consider) self imposed isolation between strangers. I also feel that I have the ancient Greek's appreciation of the human body (no gay jokes, please). I really appreciate Pete LaMaster's articles on his experiences, and I would encourage (for whatever good one persons opinion is worth) anyone else to tender their experiences. If in fact, nude activities have rich social connotations, it would be nice if this newsgroup would pick up pace, and perhaps sponser discussions to this effect. Potential topics: o Is the comraderie at nude beaches similar to the comraderie among members of a sports teem (remembering my soccer days). o Do people actually act more open to each other when they are nude. Side note, are people generally less inclinded to display a facade when nude. o Do the little kids (I assumed there were some) of the families at these beaches, seem to be getting a better perspective (pun intended) of sex education. Just to throw in an opinion, I used to hate how parents seemed to be so anal (sorry) about nudity. o Due nudists seem to be more free spirited and less constrained by society. Not afraid to expose myself to netnews, From genrad!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!ariel!hou5f!hou5e!hou5d!hogpc!houxm!houxh!pvl Thu Jul 28 16:57:13 1983 Relay-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site houxh.UUCP Path: mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!ariel!hou5f!hou5e!hou5d!hogpc!houxm!houxh!pvl From: pvl@houxh.UUCP Newsgroups: net.rec.nude Subject: Nude Recreation Primer II: Why? Message-ID: <188@houxh.UUCP> Date: Thu, 28-Jul-83 16:57:13 EDT Article-I.D.: houxh.188 Posted: Thu Jul 28 16:57:13 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 29-Jul-83 04:02:13 EDT Organization: Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 49 I eagerly await the end to my monopoly of this newsgroup. Please do so. Pete LaMaster -- J. Scott Hamilton !genrad!mit-eddie!hammy