[net.rec.nude] Turn About is Fair Play

hollombe@ttidcc.UUCP (The Polymath) (02/19/86)

Here's a dandy little controversy I've had brewing for the past week or so.
Should  liven  things  up  a  bit  and,  I  hope,  stop some of the endless
recriminations that have been bogging down these groups of late  (replacing
them  with  new  recriminations,  of  course  (-: ).  Fits in well with the
recent net.rec.nude discussion, too.

A few months ago, _Playboy_ magazine ran  a  pictorial  of  "The  Women  of
Mensa",  which  generated  some interesting discussion here (and in Mensa).
In the spirit of  "turn  about  is  fair  play"  (who  said  that?  (-:  ),
_Playgirl_ magazine is now contemplating a pictorial of "The Men of Mensa".
(I can hear the flames now ... "Sexism!", "Exploitation!", "Where can I get
a copy?!" (-:{ ).

Now, just to add a twist to the situation, I'll  tell  you  all  that  I've
applied  to  be  included  in  the  pictorial.  I gave them a set of sample
photographs today and am awaiting their response.  Win or lose,  I'll  keep
the net posted as to developments if any interest is shown.

So -- something for everyone.  Feminists, nudists, anti-porn, anti-sexists,
male  chauvinists,  and their sisters and their cousins and their aunts can
all find something to flame about here,  I'm  sure.  (Maybe  we  could  try
reasoned debate and calm discussion for a change? ...  Nahh. (-: )

Now, where'd I put that flame-proof suit....

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tkoppel@isis.UUCP ( News Guest) (02/21/86)

In article <168@ttidcc.UUCP> hollombe@ttidcc.UUCP (The Polymath) writes:
...Now, just to add a twist to the situation, I'll  tell  you  all  that  I've
...applied  to  be  included  in  the  pictorial.  I gave them a set of sample
...photographs today and am awaiting their response.  Win or lose,  I'll  keep
...the net posted as to developments if any interest is shown.

More power to you.  This statement  tells me that the Polymath seems to
understand that he has free will; that if he does not feel 'exploited'
(whatever that means), his activities, however they are seen by
others, are HIS OWN actions.  If more people did what they wanted to
do rather than worry about what others thought (and if the fanatics would
leave the rest of us alone to do as we please) the world would be a better placeto be.

Good luck.

-- 
Ted Koppel : Colorado Alliance of Research Libraries : 303-750-9142
           : hao!nbires!isis!tkoppel

charliep@polaris.UUCP (Charlie Perkins) (02/21/86)

Way to go, Jerry!  I hope you are included among those whose
pictures are accepted.

I'm curious, however, what the premise of the hoped-for debate
will be.  Is the question "Should naked pictures be published
in magazines oriented towards erotic enjoyment?"?  Or is it,
"Are pictures of naked people pornographic?"?  Or is it,
"Should nudists contribute to exploitative sexism in pornographic
magazines?"?  I confess, I am at somewhat of a loss when trying
to understand just how it is that the people whose pictures
are being purchased are supposed to be the ones who are
being exploited!

The Playboy pictorial ("The Women of Mensa") must have been
a success for Playgirl to be planning a follow-up.  That is
encouraging to me.
-- 

Charlie Perkins, IBM T.J. Watson Research	philabs!polaris!charliep,
		perk%YKTVMX.BITNET@berkeley,  perk.yktvmx.ibm@csnet-relay

krantz@csd2.UUCP (Michaelntz) (02/22/86)

So what?